Here is whats wrong with Cape Town Racing

My View obviously.

I find 28 trainers that could or should be classified as Cape Trainers

1) JM Neuland 4 runners this season last runner in August. He only ever raced two horses my guess is he is no longer training

so actually 27 trainers left

2) Allie Ok he seems to persevere with three horses in his yard. so he aint saving Cape racing anytime soon.

so actually 26 trainers left

3) AD Steyn also perseveres with very horses. 10 or 11 horses in his yard. so he cant help much.

so actually 25 trainers left

4) Prestage also perseveres with very horses. 10 or 11 horses in his yard. so he cant help much.

so actually 24 trainers left

5) Kruyer someone who should be more successful. has about 25 horses in training. But never races them. his horses see the track very very seldom. Maybe twice a year.

6) Humby Has about 20 horses in training. also only races to keep the horses from rusting in their stables.

7) H Crawford 15 horses in training if that many. he does ok. But not gonna save Cape Racing.

Sheehan about 15 to 20 horses in training has has a really good season. but not enough horses to make a difference

9) Bruss probably has more than 20 horses in training but has not raced them. probably could race more often but no sucess since going to saudi arabia

10) Van Reenen about 15 to 20 horses in training has has a fair season. but not enough horses to make a difference

11) Stewart Probably 25-30 horses in training. does not race often. Concern he has manged to win only 1 maiden plate the entire season. no new horses up and coming.

12) Glen Puller Bigger yard about 40 horses in training. should race way more could be doing more to save cape racing

13) Burger Yard with worst record this season. about 20 horses in training. They do run just very badly. Not gonna save Cape Racing

14) Nel . Could not say how many horses he had in training in Western Cape but no less than 50 would be a good estimate. great start to his career. doing his part to save Cape
Racing

Ok half way not looking good only Nel Standing up for Racing. The rest should probably go work for Burger King Franchise

15) Ennion probably 30 to 35 horses in training. Decent stats. he is doing his bit for Cape Racing

16) Reeves probably 30 to 35 horses in training. Decent stats. he is doing his bit for Cape Racing

17) Sands 40-50 horses good season so far. he could race more often

18) Marcus 50 or so horses good season.

19) Kannemeyer big yard probably in excess of 75 horses in the western cape. does not race very often. seems more interested in racing in KZN than Western Cape.

20) Hodgson upwards of 60 horses in training. does not race the horses. he could learn from Nel.

21) P Steyn no more than 30 horses but he races them. no faulting his effort to get horses to the track.

22) M Robinson like Nel hard to say how many unraced horse. but has about 50 + horses in training. does OK

Now the big 6 yards or they are at the moment at least.

23) Ramsden in excess of 100 horses. Maybe not so many after big owner left but still lotsa horses. he races his horses, Good for Cape Racing

24) Kotzen Probably also 100 + but he races his horses. Good for cape racing

25) Marshall Big Yard also close to or around 100 horses. Races often enough

26) Crawford Big Yard in excess of 100 horses. top yard

27) Snaith he has raced 138 different horses in the western cape this season. he could race more often but i would imagine logistics is massive

28) Bass 124 differeny horses raced so far. he races his horses regularly.

So with that i leave for the forum to decide what is wrong with WC Racing

I'll be getting swore at by the Cape Mafia on Whatsapp after this thread

a trainer like the late Buddy Maroun would kill them - Gauteng trainers like Peters should make a move as fitness will overcome ability everyday

Shayne it appears as though horses are purchased to be with cape trainers to race in PE and DBn... Why I have no idea

Sylvestere all that hard work, all i can say is give that man a bells.

Love it when a struggling trainer in the Cape nicks a race or two, mostly by sticking an Appie up and telling them to go faster than the Kock's behind

yes Sylvester you right my yard is doing very bad this season I have 5 old horses and 17 babies give me more horses then they will get more runners and the big yards are getting bigger and small yard are smaller we go to the sale and if a owner does not buy you the horses you can't win the races when I had good horses in my yard there were no maidens in my yard

Keep going Carl,it's the same in every job.If you haven't got the right tools,the job is a lot harder..
I think it's the racing product in general in South Africa that's not enticing new owners,
It needs a revamp,needs to stop this petty regional squabbling/jealousy that seems to exist.
Needs to be a way to attract new owners,I'm surprised that ABC hasn't got a syndicate going.Theres enough members to make it a affordable experience.
That would bring more customers to the course and looking at Daves pics from the coach trip,it looked a cracking day out.How many tickets do owners get for race day in SA?
I would join a syndicate,then you can vote for trainer and a spokesperson.

Dave we renewed our Syndicate colours so find us a horse

Sylvester Your figures correct
A.D.Steyn trains from own premises Property is on the market and he will close up
Prestage has open licence but only trains his own Actually one of the bigger owners!
Kruyer Humby don't race horses often but less than 35 horses each
H.Crawford Bruss Van Reenen Burger all small about 20 average

The major problem is that for years any newcomer unless well connected has no chance to get stables When Elley closed up the stable were split to two big yards
I understand Candice Dawson who worked for Woodruff for years was refused stables
Have a look at Janse Van Vuuren stats He also spent time with Woodruff
A new young person has no chance Nel is working for Plattner a different story altogether
Cape Town needs at least 8 more yards to stay out of trouble
I predict racing 1 meeting per week shortly
Then watch the BIG GUYs vanish

Bob I have a few nice horses ready to run but can't seem to put them together smaller owners are going fast

The situation is a lot deeper than pure stats. If you take a closer look how the smaller yards are made up then you know how difficult the task is.

So as I say, if you look deeper into the stats, how many competitive horses from the smaller trainers stay in training when they struggle and how many actual horses do they have running in open company? Then you need to look at their health. There may be a few that need longer breaks as they not sound.

I'm not trying to pick on the big trainers. But think of it like this. Snaith for example gets maybe 22 winners for each sex by 3 year old age group in Cape Town alone. By the time they reach 4 there is about 2 or 3 fillies left and maybe 10 colts/geldings left. So when you have high quality horses and those majority win the maidens but still so many leave no wonder we have less horses in training. So you can imagine how many 5 and 6 year old are still running.

I've had many conversations with trainers with how shocked they are at how difficult it is to win a race in Cape Town. There may be less horses but the quality is high when you have the stud farms keeping their best, Jooste's giving the majority of their best to ramsden and other owners like mitchell/foster/devine/beck/plattner/ressell/shirtcliff/truter/adams/van huysteen/bortz/ridgemont etc

This is actually made a number of the smaller trainers consider their position as we speak and we may be hearing quite a number of them put their lot in, in the coming months. When you get situations where smaller trainers find a good patron and then the bigger trainers try and poach them away then you know how bad it is.

I would like to call ourselves middle to smaller owners and we are really pleased with our trainers Marshall and Kruyer. Both produce the goods for us.