Greyville FRIDAY 6 May 2016

bayern wrote:

Mac wrote:

mvp1 wrote:

bayern wrote: Is there any reason why Van Niekerk does not ride Silver Mountain, he is the stable jockey after all - or is it one of those best left un-answered questions? One would think with Domeyer not riding in Durban on Friday night, Van Niekerk would grab that opportunity with both hands and make the mount his own going forward.

bernard has a close affiliation with maine chance and he rides alot of there horses,perhaps that is the reason why aldo/van niekerk not riding the filly

Nightingale - a better filly?

Mac, if we are to answer your question on what has been achieved to date, then it is fair to say Silver Mountain is the better of the two. If one looks back to all Silver Mountains runs where Van Niekerk had a ride in the very same races, hard to believe he would have freely chosen to sit on a 50/1 shot versus a 15/20 favourite, a 14/1 shot versus a 14/10 favourite, and so, but you get the gist.

Maybe with time Nightingale may prove to be the better filly, let's wait and see.

I can't speak as to why BF is riding Silver Mountain tonight,but the reason Domeyer rode SM 1st time out is because GVN was suspended.GVN agreed that Domeyer could keep the ride after the debut run.

GVN and Domeyer are best mates,but GVN has picked up plenty stick from the other jocks as a result of this decision as they keep telling him he's no 'judge',and it's a decision that has haunted him to a degree since then.

Great thread guys!! Bayern, I like your thinking as regards Muwaary. Also imo the way he runs the short Greyville straight may suit. Will put in small Patent.....

Huchergh wrote:

bayern wrote:

Mac wrote:

mvp1 wrote:

bayern wrote: Is there any reason why Van Niekerk does not ride Silver Mountain, he is the stable jockey after all - or is it one of those best left un-answered questions? One would think with Domeyer not riding in Durban on Friday night, Van Niekerk would grab that opportunity with both hands and make the mount his own going forward.

bernard has a close affiliation with maine chance and he rides alot of there horses,perhaps that is the reason why aldo/van niekerk not riding the filly

Nightingale - a better filly?

Mac, if we are to answer your question on what has been achieved to date, then it is fair to say Silver Mountain is the better of the two. If one looks back to all Silver Mountains runs where Van Niekerk had a ride in the very same races, hard to believe he would have freely chosen to sit on a 50/1 shot versus a 15/20 favourite, a 14/1 shot versus a 14/10 favourite, and so, but you get the gist.

Maybe with time Nightingale may prove to be the better filly, let's wait and see.

I can't speak as to why BF is riding Silver Mountain tonight,but the reason Domeyer rode SM 1st time out is because GVN was suspended.GVN agreed that Domeyer could keep the ride after the debut run.

GVN and Domeyer are best mates,but GVN has picked up plenty stick from the other jocks as a result of this decision as they keep telling him he's no 'judge',and it's a decision that has haunted him to a degree since then.

Thanks for clearing that up. I remember how happy he was when winning his first Grade 1 aboard Inara (I am open to correction on this), imagine how much happier he would have been if he had taken the decision to ride Silver Mountain. And here I thought jockeys were in the business to ride winners, especially Grade 1 winners. Some jockeys become famous because of that one horse, maybe Van Niekerk needs to visit a head-shrink.

Magi wrote: Great thread guys!! Bayern, I like your thinking as regards Muwaary. Also imo the way he runs the short Greyville straight may suit. Will put in small Patent.....

For our sake, let's hope Muwaary reads this thread, I think he is a smart horse :silly:

I think it was less of a conscious decision on GVN part and more just a case of how the chips fell.

When multiple jocks are riding work for one stable(unusual as that is Bass is very lucky that way)each has to be given rides.GVN is essentially the stable jock,but Domeyer has a close association with the stable since long before he even went to the academy so in this instance the chips fell his way.

Felix Coetzee must have had many a nightmare when he had to pick and Mark Sutherland landed up on the 'right one',it's just the nature of the game.

Are these races usually run on a friday?

no false rail tonight which will make for some fair racing at the theatre of dreams ..I imagine for the july there will no false rail or maybe a one metre false rail ... ;)after watching champions day run on a fair track where there were no excuses for any runners one has to watch group racing on this dodgem car track tonite

Bob Brogan wrote: Are these races usually run on a friday?

usually run on the first Saturday in may but whoever does the program has zero respect for tradition so chops and changes distances, names ,tracks and conditions for feature races depending how they feel

pirates wrote:

Bob Brogan wrote: Are these races usually run on a friday?

usually run on the first Saturday in may but whoever does the program has zero respect for tradition so chops and changes distances, names ,tracks and conditions for feature races depending how they feel

Talking about program changes, the 2yo races on July Day are now Grade 2 Races. On Gold Cup Day, there are 2yo races over 1200m (Grade 2) and 1600m races (Grade 1) for both sexes.

In the 1990's, they had a 2yo feature race at Clairwood over 1800m, 2 weeks after the July Day. That race was won by a future July winner, Dancing Duel.

Bob Brogan wrote: Is this The Conglomerrates 1st run as a gelding ? think he has a big Feature in him

this field is ready made for them!

According to gallop we have an 84% chance of medium rain????

What's the weather looking like in Durbs please.

Huchergh wrote: According to gallop we have an 84% chance of medium rain????

What's the weather looking like in Durbs please.

a beautiful day