These horses love Starbucks......

G Denysschen wrote: Yes it was a second offence as stated but at the time of the first offence the food from the same supplier was pinpointed as a problem but the matter was taken no further as it was very hard to prove and I am not aware if the authorities at that time did any random testing. It was also round about the same time as James Goodman picked up his problem and another JHB trainer who I cant recall at present. The evidence is now without doubt that it is a food contamination issue. However that doesnt help the trainer as he is held liable as the horse are in his care. At the time of James Goodmans offence you will recall he rightly pleaded his innocence but was slated and branded for the offence. I assure these are unfortunate circumstances out of the trainers hands. Lets see what happens in James's supreme court case and whether he is hopefully exhonerated.

G Denysschen wrote: Its amazing how everyone is all of a sudden a so called expert on "doping" offenses when they in fact know noting about the background of this case

The only one who speaks any sense or has made a logical comment is Dean321.

Most disappointing Bob is some of your comments directed directly at the trainer such as ban him when you profess to have in depth knowledge of the racing industry but are actually showing your complete ignorance of the scenario and not taking any time to think about this logically

As Dean321 has said does anyone really believe that a trainer in his right mind would purposely give horses caffeine all in this limited period of time. As stated it would be suicide. There is absolutely no evidence of caffeine having any performance enhancing attributes on a racehorse especially in such small quantities so why would a trainer even bother doing it.

All the conspiracy theorists can believe what they like but the fact is that there was a contamination of the horse feed which comes from one specific supplier who I will not name. The authorities have done random out of racing testing of some other trainers using the same feed supplier and they got positive results for caffeine as well. What will happen as a result of that I cant say as its in the authorities hands.The feed supplier is aware of the problem but ultimately its not their issue as the trainer is deemed the one responsible for the horses care even if they are totally unaware that this banned substance was in the food source that they trusted.

You would have thought that the authorities may have taken these circumstances into account but clearly they happy to perform witch hunts on soft targets in the name of doing their jobs when there are in fact far more serious offences taking place.

Its fully accepted that Caffeine is a banned substance under NHRA rules which is understandable but it has in no way been purposely administered or done with sinister intent.

Is the trainer guilty of training the horses that tested positive for caffeine, the answer is obviously YES

Is the trainer guilty of purposefully administering the substance with sinister intent, the answer is unequivocally NO !

I am one of the registered owners of two of the horses found positive and can categorically state there was nothing untoward that took place here. There was no big betting moves or any large stakes wagered so nothing points towards any unlawful gain. I am giving the facts, whether all the mudslingers who hide behind pseudonyms choose to believe them or not is entirely their choice

This is just a very unfortunate situation which has unfairly landed in the lap of of upstanding and honest trainer.

Garin Denysschen wrote: Hello Form Fundi

This matter is still ongoing

A certain legal course has been taken but unfortunately these things take time

At this stage I would prefer not to say anything more than that

Over the Air wrote: I have just read some of the responses to this thread and must admit to being utterly appalled at how this matter has been handled by the Jockey Club. As Bob posts earlier, how else must one react to a press release from the Jockey Club? It is my opinion that this organisation has failed trainer Denysschen by failing to tell the WHOLE story. They are quite happy to tarnish his reputation by declaring 5 positives for all to see, and getting the responses ( mine included ), that are damning of trainer Denysschen from the racing public.

The responses from any level headed individual would have varied dramatically if they had included the contaminated food part of the story. It makes me think that the Jockey Club are more interested in punishing people and fining them, than letting the truth come to light. There is an absolute material difference between doping and unknowingly feeding contaminated food to horses. The Jockey Club have been mischievious in their handling of this case, and in my opinion, have destroyed a mans reputation in the process. It is hardly the actions of a controlling body that have been tasked to protect the integrity of horse racing.

I apologise unreservedly to trainer Denysschen for my previous comments.

Garin Denysschen wrote: Hello Form Fundi

This matter is still ongoing

A certain legal course has been taken but unfortunately these things take time

At this stage I would prefer not to say anything more than that

Muhtiman wrote: ....what now....if the feed supplier is the problem....do the horses get reinstated as legitimate winners and stakes re-reimbursed and fine amounts be given back...a sharp legal eagle could jump on this and take on the NHRA if they do not make the necessary compensation.... :oops:

Garin Denysschen wrote: Hi all

Unfortunately the legal action from our side is still ongoing. Lowan has been following a certain legal course in terms of public liability in trying to recoup all of the costs against him such as the ridiculous fine and all the stakes which had to be paid back.

However with these latest developments it puts a very different spin on things and all options are been considered

From the start Lowan pleaded his innocence to this charge in terms of that he never knowingly administered this prohibited substances to any of the horses. Any person with an IQ slightly higher that a brick could have figured out that when there were so many positives in such a short space of time that there had to be outside influence. The NHRA however with their arrogant attitude were never prepared to listen and were never prepared to take a rational stand point and be pro-active and actually try get to the bottom of the contamination which would have been in the interests of all parties concerned. Their lawyers in the hearing were not racing people and their decision is a foregone conclusion before you even get there, Guilty until proven innocent is their modus operandi. The case was the same with James Goodman in that he also pleaded his innocence with regards to administering caffeine and he has now been vindicated in a court of law so well done to him.

If the NHRA had any common sense they would admit to their folly and immediately drop all charges and re-imburse all funds. As history has shown though they will probably continue to take the arrogant route instead of trying to help.

I notice now that certain people who were so scathing with their attacks and comments calling for a life ban on Lowan when this first surfaced have been very quiet and reserved