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7 years 8 months agoMuhtiman wrote: .....Warren we are mostly sour about what has transpired with this saga.....however should PHUM shares plummet......game over.....the Racing Trust holds around 35% of these shares and I am led believe the magical stakes formula and special RA members additional winning bonus are derived from dividends on these shares.....
....should stake increases be curtailed or even reduced.... many more owners would be driven from the game...a balance needs to be achieved.....I for one believe that with Jooste out of the way and the more level headed Kantor at the helm.....racing's best interests will be served.........he is a brand builder of a more finesse business approach.....would not be surprised if he was directly involved with propping up these shares.....not only to protect his own nut....but has racing close to his heart....
....this 18 you are hearing.... may be the number that someone could have put a sell order on to try and cash out.... :ohmy:....but as other posters and even I have eluded to the share cannot be propped indefinitely.....and sadly will begin to slide....those that that have been remunerated with or coaxed into investing in them.... must now take the poison that came with them.... :oops:
100 % - If you get a copy of the minutes if the last meeting of the Trust or Financials please forward them . (Sarcasim)
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....this is where the RA members must act and even non RA but still owners none the less....get straight answers about the stakes formulation and the impact of the current situation will have on the stakes going forward..... that those in charge were forever trying to side step....

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7 years 8 months agoMuhtiman wrote: .....Warren we are mostly sour about what has transpired with this saga.....however should PHUM shares plummet......game over.....the Racing Trust holds around 35% of these shares and I am led believe the magical stakes formula and special RA members additional winning bonus are derived from dividends on these shares.....
....should stake increases be curtailed or even reduced.... many more owners would be driven from the game...a balance needs to be achieved.....I for one believe that with Jooste out of the way and the more level headed Kantor at the helm.....racing's best interests will be served.........he is a brand builder of a more finesse business approach.....would not be surprised if he was directly involved with propping up these shares.....not only to protect his own nut....but has racing close to his heart....
....this 18 you are hearing.... may be the number that someone could have put a sell order on to try and cash out.... :ohmy:....but as other posters and even I have eluded to the share cannot be propped indefinitely.....and sadly will begin to slide....those that that have been remunerated with or coaxed into investing in them.... must now take the poison that came with them.... :oops:
According to comments on Sportingpost, Kantor, already got a piece of the pie through some transport contract. Conflict of interest? Or he can be like Koko of Eskom.
I don't believe in this ideology of Black First Land First and they always bellowing Stellenbosch Mafia/Brigade. Maybe they onto something like a bygone era of the Rothschild....
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7 years 8 months agonaresh wrote:Muhtiman wrote: ...
According to comments on Sportingpost, Kantor, already got a piece of the pie through some transport contract. Conflict of interest? Or he can be like Koko of Eskom.
I don't believe in this ideology of Black First Land First and they always bellowing Stellenbosch Mafia/Brigade. Maybe they onto something like a bygone era of the Rothschild....
.....Kantor may not be in that affair for a return.....let us see what his role or investment is all about when the matter finally unfolds....I remember him selflessly pumping ZAR10BAR to try and keep Brian Roux's bloodstock shipping company from collapsing after it was discovered that Brian had not paid the customs vat and duties over to SARS...... :whistle:
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7 years 8 months agoLen Sham wrote: 235 000 shares traded yesterday at R 17.48
Steinhoff shares traded in the week before the crash ( 27/11/17 - 1/12/2017 )averaged R55-20 with volumes over 6 million. How do you think those purchasers feel today?
Put your pension into Phumelela, Len its a sure thing. Just make sure that you have a support system with room to accommodate before you do.
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7 years 8 months ago
OTA you cant resist
u the only bright spark in racing covering all topics.

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7 years 8 months agoLen Sham wrote: OTA you cant resistu the only bright spark in racing covering all topics.
I would rather be a bright spark than a lackey.
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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months agoLen Sham wrote: 235 000 shares traded yesterday at R 17.48
The only guy with deep enough pockets to prop up the share price, will end up owning the whole company to save it :whistle:
Non-Executive Chairman : B Kantor
Number of shares : 235 000
Price per share : R17.4892
Highest price per share : R17.49
Lowest price per share : R17.40
Average Price per share : R17.4892
Date of transaction : 18 December 2017
Value of transaction : R4 109 962.00
Class of shares : Ordinary
Nature of transaction : Purchase, on market
Nature of interest : Direct Beneficial
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7 years 8 months agoThe missing link wrote:Len Sham wrote: 235 000 shares traded yesterday at R 17.48
The only guy with deep enough pockets to prop up the share price, will end up owning the whole company to save it :whistle:
Non-Executive Chairman : B Kantor
Number of shares : 235 000
Price per share : R17.4892
Highest price per share : R17.49
Lowest price per share : R17.40
Average Price per share : R17.4892
Date of transaction : 18 December 2017
Value of transaction : R4 109 962.00
Class of shares : Ordinary
Nature of transaction : Purchase, on market
Nature of interest : Direct Beneficial
.....he must now be the single largest share holder after the RA Racing Trust.....however....is this not how Steinhoff conducted their share exchange business.....the more money Jooste and co generated through the businesses the more shares they bought..... :S
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7 years 8 months ago
So four Directors now propping the price up.
It's a matter of time before the Crimehoff flu hits
It's a matter of time before the Crimehoff flu hits
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