USA next President Donald or Joe?
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4 years 7 months agoVictor wrote: I suppose you going to tell me that everyone also loves him because of all the lies that he has been found out on
Victor, seriously? Is this the best you got? These comments are all inconsequential. So what if he exaggerated the number of people at his inauguration etc?
Bidens and Harris' lies are much worse. First, they say that the are going to ban fracking. Then they flat our deny that they said it, even though there is video recordings of it.
When Trump banned travel from China, the Dems were calling him racist and over reacting. Now they saying he didnt respond quick enough, and they would have banned travel sooner.
Bidens son just got a wire transfer of $3.5m from mayor of Moscow. What for?
Biden and Harris supported the green new deal. In the debate, they both said that they do not. Biden’s website still labels the radical GND (unveiled by Harris herself last year, as an original co-sponsor with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) “a crucial framework” for addressing climate change. The site demands “greater ambition on an epic scale” to meet the challenges. Yes, “epic.”
These are just some of the lies. Theses are policy issues, not stupid insignificant statements.
If the Americans vote the dems into power, then they get the future that they deserve. And that future looks like Chicago, Baltimore, California, San Francisco etc. These once great cities have been run by dems for decades. And they ran them into the ground. These cities are becoming 3rd world cities. But there poilitcal leaders, all lifelong politicians, are all worth millions. That's the future of a USA run by the dems.
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4 years 7 months ago
Again the President giving his people and the world groundbreaking news that he is " immune " to the Covid19.
Was it his doctors advising him that he has developed the antibodies or his expert brain going into overdrive?
Mind-boggling …...glad he was advised against donning the Superman outfit.
Was it his doctors advising him that he has developed the antibodies or his expert brain going into overdrive?
Mind-boggling …...glad he was advised against donning the Superman outfit.
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4 years 7 months ago
You know Lionel.....
"If the Americans vote the dems into power, then they get the future that they deserve. And that future looks like Chicago, Baltimore, California, San Francisco etc. These once great cities have been run by dems for decades. And they ran them into the ground. These cities are becoming 3rd world cities. But there poilitcal leaders, all lifelong politicians, are all worth millions. That's the future of a USA run by the dems."
That is so well put and I am really starting to hope that they get what they deserve by voting for the Democrats ! All the brainwashed, narrow minded libertarians.... bring it on. Get the Democrats in and see how your quality of life improves middle class and lower ...
"If the Americans vote the dems into power, then they get the future that they deserve. And that future looks like Chicago, Baltimore, California, San Francisco etc. These once great cities have been run by dems for decades. And they ran them into the ground. These cities are becoming 3rd world cities. But there poilitcal leaders, all lifelong politicians, are all worth millions. That's the future of a USA run by the dems."
That is so well put and I am really starting to hope that they get what they deserve by voting for the Democrats ! All the brainwashed, narrow minded libertarians.... bring it on. Get the Democrats in and see how your quality of life improves middle class and lower ...
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After Trump banned travel from China he was called Xenophobic.... and Nancy Pelosi was walking around China Town saying how safe she felt and all is great....
Here is a really good viewpoint from two 'foreigners' who are now living in the DSA... really really good listen no matter who you support. This guy Dinesh is a really bright boy.
Patrick Bet-David and Dinesh D'Souza talk about the dangers of shifting into a socialist country, despite the many times it has failed in the past
This is an enjoyable channel to follow and listen to on a quiet evening with a wee dram of really good whiskey
Here is a really good viewpoint from two 'foreigners' who are now living in the DSA... really really good listen no matter who you support. This guy Dinesh is a really bright boy.
Patrick Bet-David and Dinesh D'Souza talk about the dangers of shifting into a socialist country, despite the many times it has failed in the past
This is an enjoyable channel to follow and listen to on a quiet evening with a wee dram of really good whiskey


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4 years 7 months ago - 4 years 7 months ago
China tests entire city for virus as WHO slams herd immunity idea
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a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/china-tests...BBqfWMJ&ocid=UE01DHP
China tests entire city for virus as WHO slams herd immunity idea
AFP
3 hrs ago
a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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China tests entire city for virus as WHO slams herd immunity idea
www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/china-tests...BBqfWMJ&ocid=UE01DHP
AFP
3 hrs ago
a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
bur-qan/hg
AFP
3 hrs ago
'Mbalula is young and insulting'
Pandora's Jar by Natalie Haynes review – ancient misogyny
a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
bur-qan/hg
www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/china-tests...BBqfWMJ&ocid=UE01DHP
China tests entire city for virus as WHO slams herd immunity idea
AFP
3 hrs ago
a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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China tests entire city for virus as WHO slams herd immunity idea
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'Mbalula is young and insulting'
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a group of people wearing costumes: China is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus© STRChina is rushing to test the entire population of Qingdao -- nine million people -- for the coronavirus
China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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China rushed Tuesday to test an entire city of nine million within days after a minor coronavirus outbreak, as the WHO warned that letting the pathogen run free to achieve herd immunity was "scientifically and ethically problematic".
The virus is still spreading rapidly around the world, with well over 37 million infections, and nations that had suppressed their first outbreaks are now struggling with fresh surges -- especially in some parts of Europe.
In the absence of a vaccine, governments are wary of allowing the virus to spread unchecked, with China launching a sweeping drive to test all residents of Qingdao after a handful of cases were detected on Sunday.
"As of 8 am... our city has taken 3.08 million samples for nucleic testing," the city's health commission said Tuesday, adding that no new positive samples were found.
Chinese officials intend to test the entire city -- around 9.4 million people -- by Thursday.
In scenes contrasting with the fumbled testing efforts of other nations, health workers in protective clothing swiftly set up tents and residents queued deep into Monday night to provide samples.
In opposition to economically painful lockdowns and social distancing, there have been proposals in some countries to let the coronavirus circulate in the population to build up "herd immunity" -- where so much of the population has been infected there are insufficient new victims for the virus to jump to.
But the World Health Organization said such plans were unworkable, and required mass vaccinations to work.
"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday, describing the idea as "scientifically and ethically problematic".
"Allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It's not an option."
Further illustrating the challenge, a study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal indicated that exposure to the virus may not guarantee future immunity -- and the second infection could come with even more severe symptoms.
- Vaccine setback -
The pandemic has claimed more than one million lives worldwide, and spurred breakneck efforts to develop vaccines and effective treatments.
Some have made it to late-stage clinical testing, but the optimism was dented Monday when Johnson & Johnson announced it had temporarily halted its 60,000-patient trial because of an unexplained illness in one participant.
There are ten firms conducting Phase 3 trials of their candidates globally, including Johnson & Johnson.
The pharma giant has been awarded about $1.45 billion in US funding under Operation Warp Speed, championed by President Donald Trump, who is keen for a political boost ahead of the November election with a coronavirus breakthrough.
Critics have excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis, with more known infections and deaths in the United States than anywhere else in the world.
Trump was sidelined from the campaign trail for 10 days after he got Covid-19, but returned to the stage Monday.
"I went through it and now they say I'm immune... I feel so powerful," Trump told a cheering crowd in Florida, few of whom wore masks.
His claim of immunity is unproven.
- 'Catastrophic, catastrophic' -
European nations are trying to contain new surges in infections, and governments are rolling out tighter restrictions to avoid the devastation of the earlier outbreaks.
Cases have soared in France, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic in recent days.
And there has also been a spike in Britain, which has the highest death toll in Europe.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered pubs in Liverpool to shut as part of a new strategy to tackle a surge in infections.
He said businesses forced to close would get support from the government, but his focus on shutting hospitality venues sparked anger.
"Catastrophic, catastrophic," said Simon Ashdown, owner of the Chepstow Castle pub in Liverpool.
"I don't think there'll be many businesses after this lockdown."
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What the hell is wrong with Trump? Why is he not listening to the Chinese and taking this virus so seriously by shutting down the economy of the one country that is standing in the way of China taking over the world!
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4 years 7 months ago - 4 years 7 months agoLionel wrote: What the hell is wrong with Trump? Why is he not listening to the Chinese and taking this virus so seriously by shutting down the economy of the one country that is standing in the way of China taking over the world!
He must be thick ....
He is also a demigod ... having ensured that 216000 people have died from COVID ..achieved by him all alone.
I see Mikesack was really trying to make his point


Any critical thinker should be able to see through all the fog being created... for instance America's death rate is almost EXACTLY on a par with the rest of the world...just under 2.9% ...take the time to do the maths.
Separately on Monday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert, told CNN that those who recover from COVID-19 are likely to be immune for a limited period of time, but there are cases emerging of people getting reinfected weeks or months later.
There was plenty evidence doing the rounds on Youtube and the internet showing documented evidence that Fauci KNEW about the experiment to make the SARS virus more lethal to humans... ( circa 2017) and this was developed in a lab at the University of North Carolina. Actual published science papers published for peer review ... of course these all got removed, blocked etc.
He later, through the CDC financed Wuhan Labs to the tune of $5000 or %50000... I cannot remember) in 2017
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.....why are we so concerned about the USA and who gets to do whatever for the next 4 years.....I was once contemplating going there to check it out as I was always crazy for their perceived lifestyle when I was growing up.... started making travel plans and even had a 10 year visa....then 9/11 happened....and that and everything since has totally put me off.....have siblings in Ozz and UK and my oldest sister is now looking at Netherlands or Spain....but well traveled me will be staying put.....and putting up with the local crap which seems much simpler than USA Ozz UK and Netherlands.....Spain never been there but a holiday maybe.....

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4 years 7 months agoMagi wrote: After Trump banned travel from China he was called Xenophobic.... and Nancy Pelosi was walking around China Town saying how safe she felt and all is great....
Here is a really good viewpoint from two 'foreigners' who are now living in the DSA... really really good listen no matter who you support. This guy Dinesh is a really bright boy.
Patrick Bet-David and Dinesh D'Souza talk about the dangers of shifting into a socialist country, despite the many times it has failed in the past
This is an enjoyable channel to follow and listen to on a quiet evening with a wee dram of really good whiskey![]()
Your "boy" Dinesh, the reborn Christian who was pardoned by Trump, ask him why he is divorced - for having sex with someone other than his wife - he needs to practice what he preaches - fcuking hypocrite.
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4 years 7 months ago - 4 years 7 months agoMagi wrote:
Damn ... this is not mainstream media.... and we all knw Trump is a racialist..not so!! Try listen with an open mind.
Draining the swamp, try and recall who is/was doing time for the swamp being drained. Just in case you are unaware of the association (just added this for clarity) :-
Paul Manafort (Trump's former campaign chairman)
Steve Bannon (Former WH Chief Strategist)
Roger Stone (Long time political ally of Trump)
Michael Cohen (Former personal attorney - the man who will sink Trump - bookmark this)
Michael Flynn (Former National Security Advisor)
Rick Gates (Former campaign aide to Trump)
George Papadoupolis (Former Trump campaign advisor)
Try add as many Democrats to the list.
Let me tell you something, the calls to "Lock her up" - Clinton, will come back to haunt Trump - i say again, he may win another term in the WH, but watch what happens next - be careful what you wish for - very true saying.
See Trump is starting to turn on his AG, William Barr - "he can be the best or worst AG in American history" - why?, because Barr doesn't want to arrest Obama, H Clinton, Joe Biden, and the list goes on - talk about being mentally disturbed - it's true, there is no honour amongst thieves.
Why stop draining now - keep going, you going to land the big fish.
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Bayern, I will not address your personal attacks on Dinesh, nor on Christianity. To each his own. One thing my dad taught me growing up is, you have the freedom to choose, but you do not have the freedom to choose the consequences of your choices. Good luck with that.
Regarding the swamp. Yes, all those republicans were charged and found guilty. They were associates of DJT. NONE of those charges were related to DJT or their dealings with him. Put your TDS aside for minute and think about this. The ENTIRE US intelligence agencies were against DJT. Fact. They made up a story to get a FICA warrant to investigate (spy) on him. Fact. That fabricated story was sponsored by Clinton, and Obama and Biden knew about it. Fact. They found nothing on DJT. Fact.
The fact that only republicans are being sentenced for crimes (and rightfully so if guilty) and not democrats, what does that tell you? It could either be that there is not a single crooked democrat, or that they got the system rigged.
No need to respond to this. Just think about it.
Oh, and lastly, aggression, personal attacks, and vulgarity may win arguments/debates in your neck of the woods, but it only demonstrates lack of depth and substance in mine.
Regarding the swamp. Yes, all those republicans were charged and found guilty. They were associates of DJT. NONE of those charges were related to DJT or their dealings with him. Put your TDS aside for minute and think about this. The ENTIRE US intelligence agencies were against DJT. Fact. They made up a story to get a FICA warrant to investigate (spy) on him. Fact. That fabricated story was sponsored by Clinton, and Obama and Biden knew about it. Fact. They found nothing on DJT. Fact.
The fact that only republicans are being sentenced for crimes (and rightfully so if guilty) and not democrats, what does that tell you? It could either be that there is not a single crooked democrat, or that they got the system rigged.
No need to respond to this. Just think about it.
Oh, and lastly, aggression, personal attacks, and vulgarity may win arguments/debates in your neck of the woods, but it only demonstrates lack of depth and substance in mine.
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