USA next President Donald or Joe?

bayern wrote:

Lionel wrote: I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel, are you insinuating Trump is not in that amount of debt? He has paid more to porn stars than to the tax man.

Time will be the judge.

I think paying Porn stars more than the tax man is the way to go:cheer:

Lionel wrote:

bayern wrote:

Lionel wrote: I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel, are you insinuating Trump is not in that amount of debt? He has paid more to porn stars than to the tax man.

Time will be the judge.

Bayern, I honestly have no idea what DJT's debt looks like. But what I can tell you is that debt is not necessarily a bad thing. Its only bad if your debt > assets. Most businesses use financing options to grow. They key is to keep it at a manageable level.

Again, I have no idea how much he has paid to the tax man. Warren Buffet apparently pays less tax than his secretary. Tax is a legal issue, and not a moral one. If I could find a way to pay zero tax legally, I would.
Won't you, Bayern?

As for paying porn stars. Well, as George Best said, 50% of his money, he spent on alcohol, drugs and women.
The other 50%, he squandered. At least Trump is not squandering his money :lol: :lol:

Let's see where Trump is next year, if not re-elected, or in 4.5 years time, if re-elected.

Magi wrote: @bayern .... he filled the seat to prevent the Democrats putting in a liberal judge...as it is the Democrats stated intention to scrap the second amendment and the filibuster clause (go read up about these).... that would put the DSA on a slippery slope into Marxism (which has never worked in any of the 25 countries who have tried it {hello Venezuela....hello Cuba.... }

As regards the taxes.... where has this been disclosed other than mainstream media... which are controlled by the Democrats and the 'new tech kids on the block' read Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg et al.

The only thing I can say for certain .... NOT ONE OF THESE POLITICIANS OR THERE REPRESENTATIVES CAN BE TRUSTED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH...LIES, NON-DISCLOSURE AND INNUENDOS ARE THE POLITICIANS CREDO...and I am talking about Right, Left and Center.

There really is no difference between the 2 parties - Both are controlled by corporate money(including generational wealth) - If there was any real chance of Marxism re birthing then the Dem nom would have been Bernie - The real power heads never contest any elections and the President is just a puppet (That's why Trump is able to say a lot but not really do a lot) -
Just take a look at Reagan - was a member of both Dem and Republican while Trump danced with both of those plus the Reform party and also as an Independent.

I do however think that Trump has done more than enough to destroy any chance of re-election so for me I'm taking 6-10 all day - The Trump years remind me of the first few seasons of Big Brother - Once you had seen Ferdie crap in the garden you kinda got bored and that program became an also ran .. Trumps entertainment appeal has waned and his flip-flop during covid has lost him major support

Magi wrote: @bayern .... he filled the seat to prevent the Democrats putting in a liberal judge...as it is the Democrats stated intention to scrap the second amendment and the filibuster clause (go read up about these).... that would put the DSA on a slippery slope into Marxism (which has never worked in any of the 25 countries who have tried it {hello Venezuela....hello Cuba.... }

As regards the taxes.... where has this been disclosed other than mainstream media... which are controlled by the Democrats and the 'new tech kids on the block' read Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg et al.

The only thing I can say for certain .... NOT ONE OF THESE POLITICIANS OR THERE REPRESENTATIVES CAN BE TRUSTED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH...LIES, NON-DISCLOSURE AND INNUENDOS ARE THE POLITICIANS CREDO...and I am talking about Right, Left and Center.

If the rumours regards his non-payment of taxes, 8 of the past 10 years, as well as his loan debts are just that, in an effort to not get him re-elected, why not sue the lot for libel/deformation. The truth will come out soon enough.

Regards the Supreme court vacancy, he has to get the Taxation Laws changed by putting Republican judges in, for a majority to change the current laws, falling which, he will spend time in an orange jump-suit in Sing Sing.

If there are 15 or 20 subpoenas against him right now, he has failed in every appeal. All his lawyers have done, is buy him some (very limited) time. He will not be bullet proof for much longer.

mr hawaii wrote:

Magi wrote: @bayern .... he filled the seat to prevent the Democrats putting in a liberal judge...as it is the Democrats stated intention to scrap the second amendment and the filibuster clause (go read up about these).... that would put the DSA on a slippery slope into Marxism (which has never worked in any of the 25 countries who have tried it {hello Venezuela....hello Cuba.... }

As regards the taxes.... where has this been disclosed other than mainstream media... which are controlled by the Democrats and the 'new tech kids on the block' read Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg et al.

The only thing I can say for certain .... NOT ONE OF THESE POLITICIANS OR THERE REPRESENTATIVES CAN BE TRUSTED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH...LIES, NON-DISCLOSURE AND INNUENDOS ARE THE POLITICIANS CREDO...and I am talking about Right, Left and Center.

There really is no difference between the 2 parties - Both are controlled by corporate money(including generational wealth) - If there was any real chance of Marxism re birthing then the Dem nom would have been Bernie - The real power heads never contest any elections and the President is just a puppet (That's why Trump is able to say a lot but not really do a lot) -
Just take a look at Reagan - was a member of both Dem and Republican while Trump danced with both of those plus the Reform party and also as an Independent.

I do however think that Trump has done more than enough to destroy any chance of re-election so for me I'm taking 6-10 all day - The Trump years remind me of the first few seasons of Big Brother - Once you had seen Ferdie crap in the garden you kinda got bored and that program became an also ran .. Trumps entertainment appeal has waned and his flip-flop during covid has lost him major support

Mr H, the comment on 'say a lot and do little" cannot go unchallenged. Trumps 2016 promises:

1. Build the wall.
2. Stop Isis
3. Bring manufacturing jobs back to USA
4. Implement tariffs on China
5. Save the 2nd Amendment, and appoint justices to the United States Supreme Court who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.
6. Get out of Iran nuclear deal.
7. Withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and to reopen the North American Free Trade Agreement in search of a better deal.

etc etc..

@ Lionel, what wall did he build? Replace sections, or build a wall which Mexico was supposedly going to pay for? His built Jack.

Any person that can still support Trump is either a racist or who just can't get it yet.

bayern wrote:

Lionel wrote: I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel, are you insinuating Trump is not in that amount of debt? He has paid more to porn stars than to the tax man.

Time will be the judge.

Again Bayern .... what's your source of information?

As regards the debt and bankruptcies ... Chapter 11 has been used by many organisations to restructure and save the company while staving off creditors... common in the US of A.

Victor wrote: Any person that can still support Trump is either a racist or who just can't get it yet.

Name one racist thing/Bill that Trump said/did.

Victor wrote: Any person that can still support Trump is either a racist or who just can't get it yet.

Cheapest answer in the book .... can't win an argument / debate... throw the racist card {puke}

So you say Trump is a racist ....... PLEASE base your assertion on fact or at least some grain of truth...

Here are some facts for you..

• Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act, written by a Republican lawmaker, providing funding for states to develop maternal mortality review committees to better understand maternal complications & identify solutions to reduce higher mortality rates for Black Americans

• In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms making our justice system fairer + helping former inmates successfully return to society • The act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes
The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes • Over 90% benefitting from retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans
The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime • Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%
• Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments • More than 7 million jobs created since election • Trump’s USDA committed more than $124 Million to help rebuild rural water infrastructure

Before the virus: • The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment • Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data

I look forward to your rebuttal.

Victor wrote: Any person that can still support Trump is either a racist or who just can't get it yet.

If Herschel Walker, Heisman Trophy winner, who has been DJT's friend for 30+ years, says that DJT is not a racist, I am more inclined to believe him than any Democrat, MSM, Hollywood and the rest of the alphabet soup that just want to toss around epithets and hope it sticks...

I thought Trump was the 1st US President to refer to Africa as having
" Shithole Countries ".
That includes us I suppose?

He's been very good to the Netanyahu's clan with Jerusalem and the Iran Nuclear Deal which Obama worked so hard to broker.

His nonsensical utterances about interventions for curing Covid must make him top candidate for Mampara of the Century.

Away with him.....I say.