Summer Cup Early Entries
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 7 months ago
De Kock is a master at prepping horses for big races and his Summer Cup record speaks for itself so I think Boquet-Garni with 53;5kg's is a good bet! He ran with steel shoes the other day, moved up from the rear end of the field nd then plodded, WATCH FOR THE GIN STRIKE

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15 years 7 months ago
MDK will win the 2000 meter race..
he would perhaps take 1,2,3 with laird or magical running on for 4th..
but the MDK horses will leave the field behind from the last 300 meters..
using my OLAP queries.....Forest Path...boom...bang..in the box...
he would perhaps take 1,2,3 with laird or magical running on for 4th..
but the MDK horses will leave the field behind from the last 300 meters..
using my OLAP queries.....Forest Path...boom...bang..in the box...
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 7 months ago
Have to agree with Dylan; Bouquet-Garni beat Magical by a length in the Derby at level weights, so at the weights there should not be much between the two; yes de Kock is a master; but Magical has had the better prep - imo
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15 years 7 months ago
it seems to the naked eye that magical has had the better prep..
on the old way of training..
comming on at the correct time..
do yourself a fav..
take bouquet-garni last big win when the it ran race 8..10/1...p6 banker..R360k
look at the pattern..see the preceeding 4 races..
note the distance..
note the placing...
then boom bang in the box..
take Foresth path...
July run..
take 4 preceeding races..
note the distance..
note the placings....
now take all the MDK runners for this 2000 trip..
match the patterns...
boom bang ...Forest Path in the box..????
MDK is a master..
he is a pioneer...
the others...settlers...
he find new way...the others follow...
he will be the first nanotech trainer too..wait and see...
the guys are busy waking up...
last night james and laff..the program on water..nono tech..biochem..
next step..alter horse blood..using water...???????nanotech water...
on the old way of training..
comming on at the correct time..
do yourself a fav..
take bouquet-garni last big win when the it ran race 8..10/1...p6 banker..R360k
look at the pattern..see the preceeding 4 races..
note the distance..
note the placing...
then boom bang in the box..
take Foresth path...
July run..
take 4 preceeding races..
note the distance..
note the placings....
now take all the MDK runners for this 2000 trip..
match the patterns...
boom bang ...Forest Path in the box..????
MDK is a master..
he is a pioneer...
the others...settlers...
he find new way...the others follow...
he will be the first nanotech trainer too..wait and see...
the guys are busy waking up...
last night james and laff..the program on water..nono tech..biochem..
next step..alter horse blood..using water...???????nanotech water...
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
Are they planning on having any of the Summer Cup meeting under lights? sure i read that the Summer cup was at 5:00pm
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
AW - Also like Forest Path - similar thinking but not as precise as yours. Also think that Meet at malamala looks the "Rudra" this year. Seems to have been cotton wooled and is making steady progress towards the big one whereas Forest Path looks like he is going backwards. Jockey allocations will tell us which is the one.
Maybe Forest Path is better at Greyville and might be aimed for the July rather than this.
Maybe Forest Path is better at Greyville and might be aimed for the July rather than this.
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15 years 6 months ago
the problem is..
the stuff becomes like mud in the blood..
so, we can eliminate a number of these runners now..
once they start going backwards, its the end of the line for them..
runners that had their turn...to be eliminated..
BOUQUET-GARNI (M F De Kock)
FOREST PATH (M F De Kock)
MEET AT MALAMALA (M F De Kock)
runners that will yield the winner..
AMBER FORT (M F De Kock).....not so sure..still a colt..
AUTUMN FROST (M F De Kock)...gelding..in with every chance..
RICH STRIKE (M F De Kock)....colt..not so sure..
On form C Laird does seem to have the better runners..
so, if the MDK engineering fails, (they are committed like the pigs),
the C Laird would be taking the spoils...Smart Banker...Dan De largo..Oracy
The rest, they are the settlers..involved like the chicken..
I still stick with MDK for this race..
the stuff becomes like mud in the blood..
so, we can eliminate a number of these runners now..
once they start going backwards, its the end of the line for them..
runners that had their turn...to be eliminated..
BOUQUET-GARNI (M F De Kock)
FOREST PATH (M F De Kock)
MEET AT MALAMALA (M F De Kock)
runners that will yield the winner..
AMBER FORT (M F De Kock).....not so sure..still a colt..
AUTUMN FROST (M F De Kock)...gelding..in with every chance..
RICH STRIKE (M F De Kock)....colt..not so sure..
On form C Laird does seem to have the better runners..
so, if the MDK engineering fails, (they are committed like the pigs),
the C Laird would be taking the spoils...Smart Banker...Dan De largo..Oracy
The rest, they are the settlers..involved like the chicken..
I still stick with MDK for this race..
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
Forest Path needs a miracle after yesterday and Malamala's only hope of getting the 2000 is with the blinkers off? Laird looking good but no prep run for Dan de Lago may imply the Met is the target? Magical could be Charlie's one true adversary in the Cup.
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
I'm with Magic...The only way Meet at Malamala stays is if Mike Ratray gets a lion from his game farm to chase him home....NO CHANCE!!!
I think Charlie Laird has it sown up, but don't discount Pierre on Magical.
Ormond Ferraris is a master at getting these middle to long distance types up when it matters.
I'm just not as sure how exciting these big races can be with limited horses who can actually win. No real money in the ante post markets because you can rule out 3/4 of the field and it leaves you with only one or two REAL posibilities to have a punt on. You either go with Magicla or you try and figure ou the Charles Laird riddle.
I'm on Magical........lets wait and see
I think Charlie Laird has it sown up, but don't discount Pierre on Magical.
Ormond Ferraris is a master at getting these middle to long distance types up when it matters.
I'm just not as sure how exciting these big races can be with limited horses who can actually win. No real money in the ante post markets because you can rule out 3/4 of the field and it leaves you with only one or two REAL posibilities to have a punt on. You either go with Magicla or you try and figure ou the Charles Laird riddle.
I'm on Magical........lets wait and see
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
Oracy drawn well
Draw-
1 4 BUY AND SELL 60.0 111 B Lerena Sean Tarry
2 5 ORACY (NZ) 58.0 108 B A Marcus Charles Laird
3 7 EIGHT STREET (AUS) 58.0 107 K Shea Charles Laird
4 17 LIKEITHOT 57.0 105 M Mienie Charles Laird
5 16 SENOR VERSACE 57.0 105 B G Lerena Charles Laird
6 1 CATMANDU 54.5 100 B *D Mansour Barend Botes
7 13 HORATIO 54.5 100 R Simons Paul Matchett
8 9 CAPTAIN SCOTT 54.0 100 J Geroudis Alec Laird
9 14 MAGICAL 54.0 100 B P Strydom Ormond Ferrar
10 12 LION'S BLOOD 53.5 98 R Danielson Herman Brown
11 11 SENOR JET 53.5 98 R Hill Gary Alexande
12 18 FENERBAHCE 53.0 98 S Cormack +1.0 Gary Alexande
13 15 CAPE TOWN 53.0 97 *A Domeyer Gavin van Zyl
14 8 LONDON GUEST 53.0 97 *K Teetan Tony Rivallan
15 3 ASLAN 52.5 97 B F Coetzee Sean Tarry
16 6 RUDI ROCKS 52.5 97 B P Whitmore Charles Laird
17 2 KILLARIDGE (ZIM) 52.0 95 P S Khumalo Weiho Marwing
18 10 MEET AT MALAMALA 52.0 95 B A Delpech Mike de Kock
Draw-
1 4 BUY AND SELL 60.0 111 B Lerena Sean Tarry
2 5 ORACY (NZ) 58.0 108 B A Marcus Charles Laird
3 7 EIGHT STREET (AUS) 58.0 107 K Shea Charles Laird
4 17 LIKEITHOT 57.0 105 M Mienie Charles Laird
5 16 SENOR VERSACE 57.0 105 B G Lerena Charles Laird
6 1 CATMANDU 54.5 100 B *D Mansour Barend Botes
7 13 HORATIO 54.5 100 R Simons Paul Matchett
8 9 CAPTAIN SCOTT 54.0 100 J Geroudis Alec Laird
9 14 MAGICAL 54.0 100 B P Strydom Ormond Ferrar
10 12 LION'S BLOOD 53.5 98 R Danielson Herman Brown
11 11 SENOR JET 53.5 98 R Hill Gary Alexande
12 18 FENERBAHCE 53.0 98 S Cormack +1.0 Gary Alexande
13 15 CAPE TOWN 53.0 97 *A Domeyer Gavin van Zyl
14 8 LONDON GUEST 53.0 97 *K Teetan Tony Rivallan
15 3 ASLAN 52.5 97 B F Coetzee Sean Tarry
16 6 RUDI ROCKS 52.5 97 B P Whitmore Charles Laird
17 2 KILLARIDGE (ZIM) 52.0 95 P S Khumalo Weiho Marwing
18 10 MEET AT MALAMALA 52.0 95 B A Delpech Mike de Kock
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Re: Re: Summer Cup Early Entries
15 years 6 months ago
I guess now the pendulum swings in the favour of Oracy. He has drawn well and even though Magical is not drawn in the dumps, he is close......Something that worries me even more is the fact that uncle ormie has decided to declare Magical with blinkers (same with Aslan who I consider a good roughie)
Now we have to worry about the draw and if he will be suited to the cups.....
I guess I'm now even more convinced that Laird will win.
Now we have to worry about the draw and if he will be suited to the cups.....
I guess I'm now even more convinced that Laird will win.
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