What does MDK really know?

I watched the legend talk about one of his horses the other day and he mentioned the horse was close to its racing weight - Now if it's good enough for him then surely punters and owners need horse weights to be called or recorded - I sound like a stuck record but really all horses should have their weights published - try this - your wife says 'have i lost weight?' now I bet most guys would not be able to tell if if their spouse has lost or not - do you honestly think that from a tv screen you can tell how much weight a horse has lost? not a perfect science but the more scientific info the better

I would guess the man just about knows exactly what the best thing to do is for a horse.

He knows where to nominate, where to run, how hard to push, how to get ready for a big race and when to say NO GOOD

What more can an owner ask?

In addition he thinks we are a bunch of nutters!
But the fact that he knows we exist is good enough for me

Hope he don`t read my post about his shirt..lol

I have personally given him your physical address and I suspect that the next time he is in your neighborhood you can expect a visit

What does MDK really know???

PR Office...????

I think maybe you misunderstand me Andre - If De Kock and other trainers use a scale to gauge basic fitness and Natal and Cape have this system in place why can't we in Gauteng have the weights of runners published? I'm not really that good at telling how fit a horse is just by looking at it so i'd welcome the horse weights especially those that return from a layoff. It's far more scientific than relieing on an oncourse preseter telling you how fit a horse looks

MDK and Laird (C), have always used the weight and blood count to determine whether the horse was going to run well.

MDK was my neighbor at Turfontein pvt boxes for 2 years during the early 2000's, and even though we did not speak to one another personally, many of my guests knew his guests or had horses with him.

they allways said....the horse weigh the same as he did last time that he won, and that the bloodcount was right this morning..
same applies to the laird horses...

hence you are 100% correct..if a horse looks fit, but does not weigh in at the correct weight, and the bloodcount is wrong..the horse hits a brickwall 400 from home..

surely weight must be a factor when the bloodcount is correct or out too...
hence time now comes into the equation...certain months of the year, the horse will weigh in at the correct weight..and the bloodcount will be correct...???


hence my statement about OLAP,cubes and new super patterns to determine a horses ability to win....MR not the best pattern....


thats why we find many MDK,Woodruff and Laird runners at 3/10 going missing...
tell the punters the weight and the bloodcount..jockey club to do that the morning of the race...

Horses in KZN are weighed before each meeting as they arrive on course. That information is dished out to the presenter who before each race picks out the big losers or gainers.
The concept is good but desemination of information makes it an absolutley pointless exercise.
If Jet Slow, which you have banked in your Pick 6, weighs in at 30 kg above his last carded weight, you won't know until just before that race.
Either work an efficient system beneficial to punters or donate the scales to weigh-less.

I agree Thirsy - a universal system of desemination would have to be put in place or a big waste of time - I'm sure we will hear stories of how to crook the scales -(water before the race etc) but I'm sure all punters would welcome it and it would be far cheaper than sectional timing rigs etc(though this is something that I also support). The way the form works out nowadays I'm planing my own company to go into competion against weigh-less - called lose-lose-lose(you really can't pick up any weight if you've done your last R50 on an overweight odds on and can barely afford the R3-50 for an apple at Spar - I was shocked to see how much an apple cost today!!)

Andrewest Wrote:

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> MDK and Laird (C), have always used the weight and
> blood count to determine whether the horse was
> going to run well.
>
> MDK was my neighbor at Turfontein pvt boxes for 2
> years during the early 2000's, and even though we
> did not speak to one another personally, many of
> my guests knew his guests or had horses with him.
>
> they allways said....the horse weigh the same as
> he did last time that he won, and that the
> bloodcount was right this morning..
> same applies to the laird horses...
>
> hence you are 100% correct..if a horse looks fit,
> but does not weigh in at the correct weight, and
> the bloodcount is wrong..the horse hits a
> brickwall 400 from home..
>
> surely weight must be a factor when the bloodcount
> is correct or out too...
> hence time now comes into the equation...certain
> months of the year, the horse will weigh in at the
> correct weight..and the bloodcount will be
> correct...???
>
>
> hence my statement about OLAP,cubes and new super
> patterns to determine a horses ability to
> win....MR not the best pattern....
>
>
> thats why we find many MDK,Woodruff and Laird
> runners at 3/10 going missing...
> tell the punters the weight and the
> bloodcount..jockey club to do that the morning of
> the race...


What kind of credibility is it that you bring to the discussion when you admit to sitting right next to Mike de Kock at the races and have never had a conversation with him? What you bring is hearsay, of which there is way too much in this game.

Even though technology is available to be used to determine a horse's readiness to perform well, the betting and handicapping of horse racing is and always will be an art, not a science.

Those that do well in racing rarely complain about the stuff you write about. That is left as grist for the mill of the rumor mongers and losers.

Interestingly, no matter the locale, no matter the amount of information provided for bettors, the winning percentages of favorites has remained steady for the better part of 50 years.

The guy has a yard that is putting the competition to sleep at the moment.

Whether he weights them or not they are coming home.