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3 months 3 weeks ago
The other thing TN, the people i mentioned are not ruling because they intelligent, intelligent they may be, but they are where they are by instilling fear into the masses - Trump is doing the same thing right now, "disagree with me and you out".
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3 months 3 weeks ago - 3 months 3 weeks ago
I'm against the hypocrisy of leftists...they are epitome of do as I say, not as I do...notice how they were critical of the treatment of illegal immigrants but as soon as 50 of them were transported to Martha's Vineyard, they couldn't have them removed fast enough...leftists are fine with their perverse policies so long as they are not having to bear the consequences or cost thereof...
I've seen the actual with respect to SA whilst you opine what you think is DJT's intention...why do you assume that the model he aspires to is Russia, China, North Korea when there is no evidence save for the narratives perpetuated by leftists?...the US citizens rejected the leftists policies and perversions and yet, rather than looking inward, the response has been to make it the fault of those who wanted a change from the status quo that enriched a handful who made decisions that they never had to face the consequences of...show me the policies of DJT that the majority do not support and he'll face a midterm backlash that will make him a lame duck for the last two years of his presidency...
With respect to SA, the mismanagement of the SA economy through endemic theft of taxpayer funds...whilst people I grew up with do not have the basics, like water...รญs what I am opposed to...
Here's some facts...SA had debt of about R400 billion as at 1994...cumulative from colonial times to 1994...today, debt is over R5 trillion...a 12 fold increase in 30 years...we pay interest on debt now almost equivalent to what the total debt was 30 years ago...and what do we have to show for it? Bloated, inefficient bureaucracy with poor to non existent public services that are meant to help the very people that have been betrayed by the ANC...rather than raising all to the highest common factor, the ANC has tried to drag every one down to the lowest common denominator whilst enriching those on the inside...such is socialism...isn't that the China, North Korea model?ย
I've seen the actual with respect to SA whilst you opine what you think is DJT's intention...why do you assume that the model he aspires to is Russia, China, North Korea when there is no evidence save for the narratives perpetuated by leftists?...the US citizens rejected the leftists policies and perversions and yet, rather than looking inward, the response has been to make it the fault of those who wanted a change from the status quo that enriched a handful who made decisions that they never had to face the consequences of...show me the policies of DJT that the majority do not support and he'll face a midterm backlash that will make him a lame duck for the last two years of his presidency...
With respect to SA, the mismanagement of the SA economy through endemic theft of taxpayer funds...whilst people I grew up with do not have the basics, like water...รญs what I am opposed to...
Here's some facts...SA had debt of about R400 billion as at 1994...cumulative from colonial times to 1994...today, debt is over R5 trillion...a 12 fold increase in 30 years...we pay interest on debt now almost equivalent to what the total debt was 30 years ago...and what do we have to show for it? Bloated, inefficient bureaucracy with poor to non existent public services that are meant to help the very people that have been betrayed by the ANC...rather than raising all to the highest common factor, the ANC has tried to drag every one down to the lowest common denominator whilst enriching those on the inside...such is socialism...isn't that the China, North Korea model?ย
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Theft of tax payers money, what do you think the Trump Sovereign Wealth Fund is all about? They have given it a fancy name, it's all about "investing" tax payers money abroad.
If you can't see what Trump is planning on doing, i am sorry, i can't help you see the forest for the trees.
You are in no position to compare the debts of South Africa, R5 trillion, versus USA, $33 trillion - here is a fact, i will leave you to work out who added $8 trillion in 4 years. You seem to think America's interest on that debt is going to somehow magically disappear.
TN, you either trolling me, or you downright naive.
If you can't see what Trump is planning on doing, i am sorry, i can't help you see the forest for the trees.
You are in no position to compare the debts of South Africa, R5 trillion, versus USA, $33 trillion - here is a fact, i will leave you to work out who added $8 trillion in 4 years. You seem to think America's interest on that debt is going to somehow magically disappear.
TN, you either trolling me, or you downright naive.
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Again...actual theft in SA versus intention to create a fund that has not even seen a day of sunlight in the case of the US...
If you choose to see the worst in DJT based on the narratives advanced by people that have actively sought to see him fail, then you cannot be helped...
Per OMB analysis, much of the debt was unbudgeted due to COVID and incurred to replace demand when, in the main, leftist governors, shut down their states and economies and gladly accepted the COVID funds from the federal government...
Nice discussing but the world will be what it is to be even if we are in agreement...you believe what you want to and I can respect that even if not in agreement...our experiences shape our thinking and my experiences have taught me to trust leftists less than others...
I wish you well...hope you and fellow Clanners make some good money today...
If you choose to see the worst in DJT based on the narratives advanced by people that have actively sought to see him fail, then you cannot be helped...
Per OMB analysis, much of the debt was unbudgeted due to COVID and incurred to replace demand when, in the main, leftist governors, shut down their states and economies and gladly accepted the COVID funds from the federal government...
Nice discussing but the world will be what it is to be even if we are in agreement...you believe what you want to and I can respect that even if not in agreement...our experiences shape our thinking and my experiences have taught me to trust leftists less than others...
I wish you well...hope you and fellow Clanners make some good money today...
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3 months 3 weeks agoAgain...actual theft in SA versus intention to create a fund that has not even seen a day of sunlight in the case of the US...
If you choose to see the worst in DJT based on the narratives advanced by people that have actively sought to see him fail, then you cannot be helped...
Per OMB analysis, much of the debt was unbudgeted due to COVID and incurred to replace demand when, in the main, leftist governors, shut down their states and economies and gladly accepted the COVID funds from the federal government...
Nice discussing but the world will be what it is to be even if we are in agreement...you believe what you want to and I can respect that even if not in agreement...our experiences shape our thinking and my experiences have taught me to trust leftists less than others...
I wish you well...hope you and fellow Clanners make some good money today...
Ever noticed you always seem to blame the Left but the culprit himself for all that went wrong when Trump was in charge. Right or wrong, HE wasthe decision maker, like telling people to drink bleach to get rid of COVID, or shine a light into people, which would "knock it out" looking at his medical team back then. When Biden was in charge and the price of eggs went up, who do you think Trump blamed, and rightly so, Biden. Now the price of eggs has shot through the roof, and guess who's being blamed, never mind he is not the President anymore. A helicopter and earoplane crash into each other, who does Trump blame - Biden, yet he dismisssed the head of the FAA two weeks prior to the crash.
When things are bad, Trump blames everyone but himself, when the going is good, he takes all the credit. By the way, COVID did not exist throughout Trump's four years, it took place in in his last year - so he bragged about petrol (gas) prices being the lowest ever, that's because nobody was driving, everyone was in lockdown.
Believe what you want, i say give it time and we talk in 11 months time.
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3 months 3 weeks ago
Bayern he hates the left Trump really has done a job on tnaickerย
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3 months 3 weeks agoBayern he hates the left Trump really has done a job on tnaickerย
My distrust of leftists is from well before DJT entered the stage...it is from 30 years of living under leftist misrule in SA...an opportunity was there to stick it to the racists and show what good could be done rather than seeing political power as a means through which to steal and live large whilst the majority live in poverty...
I don't hate leftists...I distrust them because they profess the best of intentions but their actions show otherwise...
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3 months 3 weeks ago
Trumps wants to take over Greenland
Now he also wants all the Palestinian people to leave the Gaza stripe so that he can build a rivera.
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Now he also wants all the Palestinian people to leave the Gaza stripe so that he can build a rivera.
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3 months 3 weeks ago
TN, as an accountant, do you understand tariffs, Trump certainly doesn't.Trump seems to think the exporting country "pays" the tariff he imposes on the goods they export to the USA.
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Trump wants to buy Greenland from Denmark, he doesn't negotiate with Denmark, he just announces he's intention, .....and TN askes, "what makes you think he wants to become a Dictator like Putin and his ilk.
Doesn't stop there, he WANTS the Panama canal back because the USA built it. Here's the problem with his statement, he says the authority running the canal charge American ship too much to transit. The whole idea was for, in time of war, the US could shorten the transit time for their navy to get from the East coast to the West coast, and vice versa, rather than rounding Cape Horn. The question must be, when was the last time an American naval vessel transitted the Panama? Besides, many of the aircraft carriers are too big to fit through the newly constructed locks anyway. The real issue is that China is investing in Panama on either side of the canal. Fact, these Chinese companies do not decide what tariffs to charge for ships, American naval, or merchant vessels from any country.
Really look forward to a response regards tariffs.
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Trump wants to buy Greenland from Denmark, he doesn't negotiate with Denmark, he just announces he's intention, .....and TN askes, "what makes you think he wants to become a Dictator like Putin and his ilk.
Doesn't stop there, he WANTS the Panama canal back because the USA built it. Here's the problem with his statement, he says the authority running the canal charge American ship too much to transit. The whole idea was for, in time of war, the US could shorten the transit time for their navy to get from the East coast to the West coast, and vice versa, rather than rounding Cape Horn. The question must be, when was the last time an American naval vessel transitted the Panama? Besides, many of the aircraft carriers are too big to fit through the newly constructed locks anyway. The real issue is that China is investing in Panama on either side of the canal. Fact, these Chinese companies do not decide what tariffs to charge for ships, American naval, or merchant vessels from any country.
Really look forward to a response regards tariffs.
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3 months 3 weeks ago - 3 months 3 weeks ago
"The real issue is that China is investing in Panama on either side of the canal. Fact, these Chinese companies do not decide what tariffs to charge for ships, American naval, or merchant vessels from any country."
......still not a Trump fan.... but the above statement is a narrative that some legacy media are/were pushing and Trump, Rubio and others are basing their interest and plan policy on.....sure the Chinese are there but they are still trying to cheat USA import duties by breaking up bulk transshipment and switching/ falsifying documents on their goods that are destined for USA and other markets in the area......Trump simply wants more control in the area to stem or put a stop to this practice.....
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......still not a Trump fan.... but the above statement is a narrative that some legacy media are/were pushing and Trump, Rubio and others are basing their interest and plan policy on.....sure the Chinese are there but they are still trying to cheat USA import duties by breaking up bulk transshipment and switching/ falsifying documents on their goods that are destined for USA and other markets in the area......Trump simply wants more control in the area to stem or put a stop to this practice.....
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3 months 3 weeks ago"The real issue is that China is investing in Panama on either side of the canal. Fact, these Chinese companies do not decide what tariffs to charge for ships, American naval, or merchant vessels from any country."
......still not a Trump fan.... but the above statement is a narrative that some legacy media are/were pushing and Trump, Rubio and others are basing their interest and plan policy on.....sure the Chinese are there but they are trying to cheat USA import duties by breaking up bulk transshipment and switching/ falsifying documents on their goods that are destined for USA and other markets in the area......Trump simply wants more control in the area to stem or put a stop to this practice.....
Muhtiman, respectfully disagree. One could issue a new Bill of Lading stating the voyage emanating from Panama, and the supplier's invoices re-issued as well from a Panamanian "ghost" company, thereby trying to cheat the tariffs. The USA would be stupid not to cotton on to this, besides if the US does prove this, they can confiscate the shipment when in America, and they'd have every right to do so.
Bottom line, for me, despite what Trump is saying about bring jobs back to the US, they cannot compete with China to manufacture similar products for less the costs.
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.......Panama is totally corrupt and thus is the problem.....the Chinese and others could never get away with these type of shenanigans in say Singapore.....the Chinese have becomeย masters of dutyย deception and thrive in areas where they can operate whithย impunity.....they do not need Panamanian papers perseย but can make a document switch on the origin being Nicaragua, Chile, Mauritius or wherever....and simply have them verified by corrupt Panamaniansย ย ย
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