Trainer Fined

....basically all forms of anti inflamitories are banned for racing as the concept is if one cannot feel an injury one would run none the less causing more severe injury
Voltarin is really cool stuff...... I have self medicated after severe ankle sprains and ligament strains have never seen anything work as fast....swelling gone in hours and no PAIN

I think we need to be careful on this subject. Not all (most anyway) drugs are administered to improve the horse's performance. These 'banned' sunstances are administered for bruising, pain killers and in improving the horses condition getting it ready for racing. Maybe it is time that the NHRA to have a clear difference between performance enhancing drugs and other drugs. based on this the severity of the penalty can be determined.

why was the fine so steep for "Voltarin" ?

Surely running horses on anti inflamatorys can only damage the animals even more?

Homer,your suggestion is one I agree with entirely and have suggested myself before.
There is a distinct difference between "doping" to enhance performance and running a horse with a residue of medication,albeit a prohibited substance, and for both to remain under one banner causes the industry to be brought into disrepute,as they both tend be referred to as "doping"
It is ironical that the NHA,cause more disrepute than they prevent by not recognising the difference....mind you, I am not surprised!

Very well said, Rob.(tu)

should different rules be made for goodman et al.....rules are rules, nobody refunds the punters when such things happens, this fine is very lenient. horse racing is difficult as it is, anymore complication should be dealt with in the harshest form possible....

Keniza,I am a punter and like you are concerned about the punters viewpoint and that is exactly the point.Let me try and explain better.
I assume that like me you study form to decide your bets and if a horse has been doped to improve its performance its unlikely to be the form horse and will come to beat you and you do your money....those guilty should be warned off for life.
If however your choice suffers from unsoundness,and many of the faster horses do,would you hope that the horse is treated with anti-inflammatorys or whatever so that it can reproduce the form you are counting on,or would you prefer it to limp in downfield?
Horses do not always get rid of the residue at the same rate and "mistakes" occur.

So to answer your question "no,different rules should not be made for Goodman and it is not what is suggested, but differing punishment to fit the transgression is, and intent forms a large aspect of that.

It is about time that the NHRA re-classify medications into a schedule such as pharmacopic listings and still bar them from the horse system on race day. A trainer should be fined or have a schedule of points allocated and have points deducted and a fine according to an offence ie Voltarin 3 points and R10K cocaine 10 points and life time ban. Get caught with a shedule 3 Voltarin on 2 occasions 6 points and a suspension. Get caught with bute and lasix R100K and a suspenion get caught with any of the 2 on a 2nd offence get banned for life. Points gone trainer gone .

Voltarin ???. What are we talking about. WTF do annual compulsory horse sickness vacinations do to the form and no PUNTER is aware of when this medication is given. Any trainer will tell you that this actually affects any horse's form negatively.

This is why I am now only a VERY small punter, more a hobby than a passion like in the good old days.

rob faux Wrote:

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> Keniza,I am a punter and like you are concerned
> about the punters viewpoint and that is exactly
> the point.Let me try and explain better.
> I assume that like me you study form to decide
> your bets and if a horse has been doped to improve
> its performance its unlikely to be the form horse
> and will come to beat you and you do your
> money....those guilty should be warned off for
> life.
> If however your choice suffers from
> unsoundness,and many of the faster horses do,would
> you hope that the horse is treated with
> anti-inflammatorys or whatever so that it can
> reproduce the form you are counting on,or would
> you prefer it to limp in downfield?
> Horses do not always get rid of the residue at the
> same rate and "mistakes" occur.
>
> So to answer your question "no,different rules
> should not be made for Goodman and it is not what
> is suggested, but differing punishment to fit the
> transgression is, and intent forms a large aspect
> of that.

fair enough Rob point taken. I'm curious to know how you rate Apolo Grey running in PE on friday, MR:86, could it be another penalty kick?

No prob Keniza,will post that rating on that thread when I get to that race.....please remind me if I forget cos lots goes on between now and then!

(I can tell you that my rating is 85,so near enough to the 86 official,so unless it is some kind of plate race I am unlikely to have it with any special advantage)