Trainer Fined

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13 years 9 months ago
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i believe vanzyl got a wacking fine as well could be rumours,if voltarin is scheduled and illegal for athletes why the hell is it available over the counter?

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13 years 9 months ago
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Voltarin Gel is available over the counter but the injectable product is a schedule 4.....it is the injection that is fast acting and has rapid anti-infammitory action. The gel is not effective at all.

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13 years 9 months ago
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Muhti, do you have an idea if you inject this and the swelling goes away is it masking an underlying condition? can the horse hurt itself in running because it no longer"feels" teh pain? I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to these matters but i remember from my army days that you would be put on light duty for a week after a voltarin injection - if they did that to us humans then perhaps that is why the NHRA has this approach to this med?

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13 years 9 months ago
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I don't know if you chaps are right about more tolerance for different drugs.

My relative ran a serious testing lab at a university and said if you looking for a specific thing it's ok but looking for 1000's which can occur in millions of combinations is very very difficult, expensive and time consuming. Identification when someone is trying to deceive makes it exponentially harder.

If you have a no smoking venue it's pointless having a point system for cigarettes, pipes, cigars to dagga or whatever.

I remember when a trainer got caught and he argued that the ingredient he got caught for was for came in a tube of skin cream. It later transpired it was also an ingredient of a different injectable drug and they got him because on injection contained the same dose as 300 tubes and they managed to get the concentration.

My single vote is if my horse is well enough that it doesn't need any drugs days before it has to run, then it's well enough otherwise wait till it's better. God forbid a year later I have to give the stakes back! Lol.

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13 years 9 months ago
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mr hawaii Wrote:
> Muhti, do you have an idea if you inject this and
> the swelling goes away is it masking an underlying
> condition? can the horse hurt itself in running
> because it no longer"feels" teh pain? I'm pretty
> ignorant when it comes to these matters but i
> remember from my army days that you would be put
> on light duty for a week after a voltarin
> injection - if they did that to us humans then
> perhaps that is why the NHRA has this approach to
> this med?

Mr H I am with you on this one....yes horses do knock themselves and cause sprains and tears or aptly called jarring and this is what anti-inflammitories are used for
reduce swelling and yes light duty....maybe a walk to free the joint....racing on any type of medication is a big no no as prevention is better than cure but a residule trace found on a raceday could be present even if the medication is administered some days before the race.

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13 years 9 months ago
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....running a horse that has come off light duty could also explain why the horse came up at longer odds....(not defending Goodie in particular) trainer may have believed that with the treatment taking care of the problem and the rest from full work that a run was in order to get horse back into fitness(that dreaded not ready run) the horse relishing the break is keen, fresh and feeling no symtoms runs out of its skin.....trainers and medicators should take cognisance that when horses are put on light duty it slows down metabolism and any administered meds will take a lot longer to work themselves out of the system....

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13 years 9 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
> No prob Keniza,will post that rating on that
> thread when I get to that race.....please remind
> me if I forget cos lots goes on between now and
> then!
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> (I can tell you that my rating is 85,so near
> enough to the 86 official,so unless it is some
> kind of plate race I am unlikely to have it with
> any special advantage)

Thanx Rob however i think it is much better than the 86, perhaps a 96 even....lost by a nostril to Icemberg before going on a break.

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13 years 9 months ago
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TRAINER JOHNSON RETREATS AFTER FOUR-YEAR BAN

LONDON – The racing career of prominent trainer Howard Johnson ended at York last week after the trainer decided not to appeal against a four-year ban.

The punishment follows findings that he was guilty of racing a horse after he had been denerved and also that he administered steroids to two horses while they were in training.
The British Horseracing Authority’s disciplinary panel said the trainer had shown a “cavalier indifference” to the rules of racing and found that he raced Striking Article eight times after a denerving operation, prompted by the horse’s chronic pain, had left it without sensation in a lower foreleg. Johnson admitted from the outset that he had arranged the procedure but denied knowing that the horse would not be allowed to race thereafter.
“Johnson has shown a reckless disregard for the rules so as to jeopardise the future welfare of a gelding in training and the safety of those jockeys and stable staff who were engaged to ride it,” the panel concluded.
A three-year ban would “reflect the need to remove Johnson’s right to train horses for a period of time which is more than a mere suspension of his business”.
Striking Article was destroyed at Musselburgh last year after pulling up lame. The BHA ordered an autopsy, which showed the operation had taken place.
Johnson was also found to have ordered the administration of nandrolone to two horses, Whisky Magic and Montoya’s Son, while they were in training. A third charge, relating to Mintaka Pass, was not found proven as the panel were not persuaded he had been in training when the drug was administered. Johnson argued that the other two horses had not been in training at the relevant time but he was not believed.
The total four-year ban was welcomed by a spokesman for the World Horse Welfare charity as “proportionate to the seriousness of [Johnson’s] crime”. The RSPCA’s racing consultant, David Muir, said he was “satisfied the case has been dealt with appropriately”.
Rupert Arnold, chief executive of the National Trainers’ Federation, countered any suggestion that other horses may be racing on denerved legs. “There is no evidence, even of an anecdotal nature, to suggest that anything like this is happening on a widespread basis,” he said. “In order to sustain public confidence in the sport, we have got to maintain the highest standards of horse welfare. It is obviously regrettable that someone of his experience has ended in this position but the rules are there and [the ban] was an inevitable consequence of the findings.”
Johnson (58) expressed resentment at losing his licence but insisted there was no way back for him.
Asked about an appeal, he replied: “I just don’t feel like it. It’s gone on that long, I’m disillusioned with them [the British Horseracing Authority], the way they’ve treated me.”
He feels he would be too old to restart his training business from scratch at the end of the ban. “I’ll be 62, I’ll not come back,” he said. “I’ll potter on with my farms. I’ve got 1,000 acres, so that’ll keep me busy.” – The Guardian.

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Re: Re: Trainer Fined

13 years 9 months ago
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Howard Johnson trains those famous silk colours of black and beige in the jumps. Made quite a few rands on his horses and in particular those horses that raced in the black and beige silks.

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Re: Re: Trainer Fined

13 years 9 months ago
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why do they only take specimen after the race, when we done our money already??? why not take it before and then scratch it if its on medication/drugs/steroids........

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Re: Re: Trainer Fined

13 years 9 months ago
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Yes a field of 20 horses vs. the winner and maybe the fav. probably a cost factor.

i also doubt Phumelela have kit that can process specimens so fast.

also nothin stops someone spiking the horse after the test our horses and not sheltered like Mauritius u get fairly easy access in SA.

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13 years 9 months ago
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TRAINERS WHO CHEAT IN HORSE RACING SHOULD HAVE THEIR LICENCE SUSPENDED. THEY SHOULD NEVA TRAIN AGAIN, ITS NOT FAIR ON A TRAINER WHO WORKS HARD ON HIS HORSES ON A HONEST WAY AND HE HIS TRYING TO WIN A RACE AND THEN COMES THE DRUGGED HORSE WHICH PASSES HIM ( MENTOR.)

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