First time owner.....NEED HELP FROM THE EXPERTS
- Zietsman Oosthuizen
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First time owner.....NEED HELP FROM THE EXPERTS
13 years 1 month ago
Im looking to buy racehorses....I would appreciate some help.
1)is it better to buy horses and be the sole owner or would it be better in partnerships?
2)What your opinion of syndicates?
3)Is it better to buy in with upfront payments or better like some trainers advertise to buy shares with no upfront payment but to pay monthly installments?
4)Is it better to lease horses especially colts/geldings ?Fillies have lot more value if successful racing career ends or if they have good bloodline
Any help or suggestions?
1)is it better to buy horses and be the sole owner or would it be better in partnerships?
2)What your opinion of syndicates?
3)Is it better to buy in with upfront payments or better like some trainers advertise to buy shares with no upfront payment but to pay monthly installments?
4)Is it better to lease horses especially colts/geldings ?Fillies have lot more value if successful racing career ends or if they have good bloodline
Any help or suggestions?
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- Barry Irwin
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Re: Re: First time owner.....NEED HELP FROM THE EXPERTS
13 years 1 month ago
Stick with golf and put your winnings in certificates of deposit in a bank.
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- savasp
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13 years 1 month ago
very good mr barry

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- mr hawaii
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13 years 1 month ago
Partnership if you REALLY know the other partners(try to keep the trainer out of the deal as this can prevent you from moving the horse) -
Make up an agreement as to the dissolution of the partnership before you buy a hair on a horse(horses can turn the best of friends into jealous ex-wives)
Pay monthly .
Never leased but does save a great deal on start up costs.
Most important rule - be ready to lose money - if your first horse does win don't expect every other horse to do as well - Be realistic and get out of a horse if it shows nothing after a few runs -
good luck
Make up an agreement as to the dissolution of the partnership before you buy a hair on a horse(horses can turn the best of friends into jealous ex-wives)
Pay monthly .
Never leased but does save a great deal on start up costs.
Most important rule - be ready to lose money - if your first horse does win don't expect every other horse to do as well - Be realistic and get out of a horse if it shows nothing after a few runs -
good luck
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- Dave Scott
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13 years 1 month ago
Treat as fun and a hobby not investment.
Go into a syndicate and use a stable like Gavin Van Zyl, he has all the correct docs in place, you dont even have to know the other syndicate members.
Go into a syndicate and use a stable like Gavin Van Zyl, he has all the correct docs in place, you dont even have to know the other syndicate members.
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13 years 1 month ago
follow barrys advice religiously
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- Craig Eudey
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13 years 1 month ago
Some nice comments from people with vested intrests in racing! Just love to be or can only be negative. Not sure why they say you should stay out but are in themselves. If you want to chat Z O send me a pm and I will call and answer any questions you have.
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13 years 1 month ago
....At last some fresh meat....,plenty hungry chaps looking to get into your pockets so beware....best is to practice....go through the motion of owning without the investment....like going to the driving range and seeing if you got the game to take to the course....no need to get to the course and shanking off the tee....if you are still keen and feel that you still want to play...I will arrange the rest of your 4 ball....people you may enjoy playing with
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13 years 1 month ago
Muhtiman Wrote:
> ....At last some fresh meat....,plenty hungry
> chaps looking to get into your pockets so
> beware....best is to practice....go through the
> motion of owning without the investment....like
> going to the driving range and seeing if you got
> the game to take to the course....no need to get
> to the course and shanking off the tee....if you
> are still keen and feel that you still want to
> play...I will arrange the rest of your 4
> ball....people you may enjoy playing with
And how many horses do you own Marcus Muhti ...
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> ....At last some fresh meat....,plenty hungry
> chaps looking to get into your pockets so
> beware....best is to practice....go through the
> motion of owning without the investment....like
> going to the driving range and seeing if you got
> the game to take to the course....no need to get
> to the course and shanking off the tee....if you
> are still keen and feel that you still want to
> play...I will arrange the rest of your 4
> ball....people you may enjoy playing with
And how many horses do you own Marcus Muhti ...

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- Muhtiman
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13 years 1 month ago
well for starters....we will not be asking Markus for shares in his many many horses.....and if you had the right advice in the beginning........ I certainly would have steered you away from that riding school Kabool.....:S
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Re: Re: First time owner.....NEED HELP FROM THE EXPERTS
13 years 1 month ago
Dont mislead the author of this thread. Im sure if he wanted some gholfing advise the thread wud've read about gholfing.
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13 years 1 month ago
Muhtiman Wrote:
> well for starters....we will not be asking Markus
> for shares in his many many horses.....and if you
> had the right advice in the beginning........ I
> certainly would have steered you away from that
> riding school Kabool.....:S
LOL... Learnt the hard way...
> well for starters....we will not be asking Markus
> for shares in his many many horses.....and if you
> had the right advice in the beginning........ I
> certainly would have steered you away from that
> riding school Kabool.....:S
LOL... Learnt the hard way...

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