Proteas, will they choke again

Morkel brothers should really only be allowed to play test matches. They are not consistent enough!! That's the bottom line. Steyn is brilliant and Petersen and Botha are top class spinners in this format. Kallis and Duminy to share other overs. Oh well, we really needed that win, cos we are in the pool of death.

What is te format of these super 8's?? Does 2 teams from each group progress?

poor captaincy.we had them 77/7 and he bowls kallis,a morkel to get pakis back in game.why not bowl botha and duminy?unbelievable decisions by captain.im sorry he must take blame for the loss.that being said our batsman at top of order are piss poor.levi not good enough once again,kallis too slow and why does ab come in at no 6.very poor by proteas.im very disapointed by there performance.

the short answer to the question of the thread is YES

Shame man

Got to agree with most of the above - let's hope AB can learn from his mistakes - Albie Morkel should play as a batsmen only - or one or 2 overs up front at most - never at the death; his brother also not a death bowler and that has always been our problem in the limited over game.

Still all is not lost - but it looks like my prediction that we will not make the semi's will come true - if we do beat both the Aussies and India, then we deserve to be there

The Aussie thrashing India could help us on is we tie on net run rate. Need a win against the Aussies who if you can get through their top 3 are soft and haven't had much batting.

AB is top class and will make a great captain but he had a shocker when the pressure was on. On a turning wicket you pick Botha as a specialist bowler and only give him 2 overs, along with Duminy who looked unplayable.

20/20 is a LOTTERY most of the time imo, 3 hours of entertainment for the public and that's about all...

I am a big AB fan but absolutely shocking captaincy today. When we field 2nd and know it is a spinners wicket, to go and use seamers was unbelievable!

AB is a quality player but not a Captain`s backside, the only person who should captain the Proteas is Johan Botha. He must have said or done something wrong . How AB does not bat at 3 is a mystery and our major big-hitter Albi Morkel arrives with 3 overs left ? It`s sad but when the pressure comes on our Batsmen seem incapable of handling the situation.

Fortunately we have 2 games to play , it won`t` be easy but if we learn from todays defeat we can still qualify. Here`s hoping.

Agreed that playing Albie Morkel didn't pay off. But was it a bad captaining decision? Can I suggest something here - AB may have been trying to do something similar to what he's doing when rotating his bowlers every over or two, that is, trying to stop the batsmen getting used to any one bowler.

These bigger cricketing nations have a good look at the opposition's main bowlers before they even come on the field. They know them well from playing them before and from videos. That's why some bowlers have startling figures when they FIRST come into a team, like Philander, but then "settle down" ... maybe they are good enough to last, maybe aren't, but the better batsmen of other teams start to get the hang of them and wickets no longer fall over like cardhouses.

Both the rapid rotation and the long bowling lineup (seven of the 11 players!) tell me AB is trying to do one thing - neutralise the "Familiarity = contempt" factor.

Mavourneen Wrote:

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> Agreed that playing Albie Morkel didn't pay off.
> But was it a bad captaining decision? Can I
> suggest something here - AB may have been trying
> to do something similar to what he's doing when
> rotating his bowlers every over or two, that is,
> trying to stop the batsmen getting used to any one
> bowler.
>
> These bigger cricketing nations have a good look
> at the opposition's main bowlers before they even
> come on the field. They know them well from
> playing them before and from videos. That's why
> some bowlers have startling figures when they
> FIRST come into a team, like Philander, but then
> "settle down" ... maybe they are good enough to
> last, maybe aren't, but the better batsmen of
> other teams start to get the hang of them and
> wickets no longer fall over like cardhouses.
>
> Both the rapid rotation and the long bowling
> lineup (seven of the 11 players!) tell me AB is
> trying to do one thing - neutralise the
> "Familiarity = contempt" factor.


Good point, and who is to say that Botha or Duminy would have fared better - but the FACT is that Morkel cost us the game in that one over...

Frodo Wrote:

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> Mavourneen Wrote:
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>

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> > Agreed that playing Albie Morkel didn't pay
> off.
> > But was it a bad captaining decision? Can I
> > suggest something here - AB may have been
> trying
> > to do something similar to what he's doing when
> > rotating his bowlers every over or two, that
> is,
> > trying to stop the batsmen getting used to any
> one
> > bowler.
> >
> > These bigger cricketing nations have a good
> look
> > at the opposition's main bowlers before they
> even
> > come on the field. They know them well from
> > playing them before and from videos. That's why
> > some bowlers have startling figures when they
> > FIRST come into a team, like Philander, but
> then
> > "settle down" ... maybe they are good enough to
> > last, maybe aren't, but the better batsmen of
> > other teams start to get the hang of them and
> > wickets no longer fall over like cardhouses.
> >
> > Both the rapid rotation and the long bowling
> > lineup (seven of the 11 players!) tell me AB is
> > trying to do one thing - neutralise the
> > "Familiarity = contempt" factor.
>
>
> Good point, and who is to say that Botha or Duminy
> would have fared better - but the FACT is that
> Morkel cost us the game in that one over...


why is it always the bowlers who are accused of costing us the game? the batting display,bar a few , was disgraceful, the bowlers had little margin for error and pegged them.