Testing my structure -October month
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fogwils Wrote:
> Hi Ziets O
>
> I am now in my Dalwhinnie time and have just read
> thru this thread. There are a lot of different
> view points and most have their merits IMO, it all
> depends on how one analyses Horse Racing. Ziets if
> ur system works for you then good and well and
> keep going but there is a REAL RISK in any and
> every system. In the early to mid Sixties I was
> introduced into Horse Racing by persons that were
> very successful in their professions outside of
> Racing. One of these Gentlemen had a system where
> he also doubled up, on the Favourite, and for
> awhile was winning, unfortunately a favourite did
> not win for something like 30 to 35 weeks (those
> days we only raced on a Wed & Sat). Needless to
> say with his doubling up this Gentleman lost so
> much which included his Business, which in those
> days was one of the biggest and most successful
> Eng Works on the East Rand.
>
> I posted on another thread on this site about a a
> discussion I had with a well connected, respected
> and very knowledge person in the Horse Racing
> industry icw the difficulties I now have with
> having a winning bet. This person confirmed that
> he was in the same boat with finding
> winners/placed Horses with the MR system now in
> place. So I feel I am in good company in this
> regard and that is why I am now only a
> recreational punter.
>
> Ziets what I do not understand is why you charge
> for your TIPS, My persumption is that if you get 5
> people to pay R200 each you have a grand to punt
> with so you cannot lose no matter what a unit may
> be worth. Now I believe in free enteprise and if
> you get suckers to partake in your system good for
> you and well done in getting people to subsidise
> your punting, very ingenious IMVHO.
>
> On another point, to ALL CLANNERS, I have noticed
> that this Site's Ethos of an open and honest
> platform for opions and discussions is being
> eroded with personnal attacks to such an extent
> that some Clanners have stated that they will not
> post their fancies here. CLANNERS are we not
> mature enough to accept that people can have a
> different POV from ours and debate the merits of
> the viewpoints rather than attack the person. Was
> another site not closed down for the same
> negativity and abuse of viewpoints/merits of other
> persons.(tu)
>
> FARK my fancies for the rest of the evening is
> DALWHINNIE, a diffinite winner, cheers friends.
> Sh-- this thread makes me despondent to see to the
> levels we go to. Fark I nearly wrote a book.
Thank you Fogwils,great read and i will take it to heart .Just to explain ,i am a punter and gambling is a risk,even if Frankel run agains maidens their is still a risk,in gambling their is no Guarantees. i dont double up from meeting to the next meeting,every meeting is catered for on its own,like example if i am on tuesday on my last selection at 4 wins and 12 places and it lose i dont start wednesday scotsville on 8 wins and 24 places,i start fresh on 1 win and 3 places.I have 124 units to play per meeting and i have a spare 124 units if i lose my initial 124units for the next meeting.I lost all 124 units at only 4 meetings this year,2 meetings in PE(this month) ,and 2 meetings at Kenilworth (1 of them last month and 1 in June).This month is the real big test after losing 243 units at that lunatic Port Elizabeth but fighting back and are now just 78 units to go to make all money back and starting to show a profit....and i will make a profit,some people put in that extra effort and time,and get the results,thats why I have the balls to put it here to prove it to everyone who doubt me all the time.
And I asked R200 for almost 20 hours i spend studying that Saturdays Turf and Scott cards and tipped all 22 races.....Must i do all the work and just give everything out ,we made more than 10k that day,so their R200 was less than 2% of the winnings.....I Knew we would make money that day and if you wanted my info and views and tips then pay me for all my time and effort that you dont have to put in or do.Some did and got rewarded to spend no time ,no effort and smile all the way to the bank on such a big raceday.
Here am i sitting and study form for tomorrow and its already 01H25 am ....leaving for work in 6 hours untill 20h00 tonight then it will be me and turffontein card from 22h00pm tonight again......my dayjob require way more working hours than 99% of clanners (67 hours a week to be precise)and still 99% will give you the excuse they dont have the time to study.....Is my time not valuable?
> Hi Ziets O
>
> I am now in my Dalwhinnie time and have just read
> thru this thread. There are a lot of different
> view points and most have their merits IMO, it all
> depends on how one analyses Horse Racing. Ziets if
> ur system works for you then good and well and
> keep going but there is a REAL RISK in any and
> every system. In the early to mid Sixties I was
> introduced into Horse Racing by persons that were
> very successful in their professions outside of
> Racing. One of these Gentlemen had a system where
> he also doubled up, on the Favourite, and for
> awhile was winning, unfortunately a favourite did
> not win for something like 30 to 35 weeks (those
> days we only raced on a Wed & Sat). Needless to
> say with his doubling up this Gentleman lost so
> much which included his Business, which in those
> days was one of the biggest and most successful
> Eng Works on the East Rand.
>
> I posted on another thread on this site about a a
> discussion I had with a well connected, respected
> and very knowledge person in the Horse Racing
> industry icw the difficulties I now have with
> having a winning bet. This person confirmed that
> he was in the same boat with finding
> winners/placed Horses with the MR system now in
> place. So I feel I am in good company in this
> regard and that is why I am now only a
> recreational punter.
>
> Ziets what I do not understand is why you charge
> for your TIPS, My persumption is that if you get 5
> people to pay R200 each you have a grand to punt
> with so you cannot lose no matter what a unit may
> be worth. Now I believe in free enteprise and if
> you get suckers to partake in your system good for
> you and well done in getting people to subsidise
> your punting, very ingenious IMVHO.
>
> On another point, to ALL CLANNERS, I have noticed
> that this Site's Ethos of an open and honest
> platform for opions and discussions is being
> eroded with personnal attacks to such an extent
> that some Clanners have stated that they will not
> post their fancies here. CLANNERS are we not
> mature enough to accept that people can have a
> different POV from ours and debate the merits of
> the viewpoints rather than attack the person. Was
> another site not closed down for the same
> negativity and abuse of viewpoints/merits of other
> persons.(tu)
>
> FARK my fancies for the rest of the evening is
> DALWHINNIE, a diffinite winner, cheers friends.
> Sh-- this thread makes me despondent to see to the
> levels we go to. Fark I nearly wrote a book.
Thank you Fogwils,great read and i will take it to heart .Just to explain ,i am a punter and gambling is a risk,even if Frankel run agains maidens their is still a risk,in gambling their is no Guarantees. i dont double up from meeting to the next meeting,every meeting is catered for on its own,like example if i am on tuesday on my last selection at 4 wins and 12 places and it lose i dont start wednesday scotsville on 8 wins and 24 places,i start fresh on 1 win and 3 places.I have 124 units to play per meeting and i have a spare 124 units if i lose my initial 124units for the next meeting.I lost all 124 units at only 4 meetings this year,2 meetings in PE(this month) ,and 2 meetings at Kenilworth (1 of them last month and 1 in June).This month is the real big test after losing 243 units at that lunatic Port Elizabeth but fighting back and are now just 78 units to go to make all money back and starting to show a profit....and i will make a profit,some people put in that extra effort and time,and get the results,thats why I have the balls to put it here to prove it to everyone who doubt me all the time.
And I asked R200 for almost 20 hours i spend studying that Saturdays Turf and Scott cards and tipped all 22 races.....Must i do all the work and just give everything out ,we made more than 10k that day,so their R200 was less than 2% of the winnings.....I Knew we would make money that day and if you wanted my info and views and tips then pay me for all my time and effort that you dont have to put in or do.Some did and got rewarded to spend no time ,no effort and smile all the way to the bank on such a big raceday.
Here am i sitting and study form for tomorrow and its already 01H25 am ....leaving for work in 6 hours untill 20h00 tonight then it will be me and turffontein card from 22h00pm tonight again......my dayjob require way more working hours than 99% of clanners (67 hours a week to be precise)and still 99% will give you the excuse they dont have the time to study.....Is my time not valuable?
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Vaal sand
FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
others to follow
FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
others to follow
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
> Vaal sand
> FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
> others to follow
GEE AND TEE 55/1 11.55w/p
VARIETY SHOW 9/2 0.95w/p
CROWN HEIGHTS 16/10 win
IKATI 5/2 4/10w/p
AUTHENTICATED 10/1 23/10w/p
> Vaal sand
> FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
> others to follow
GEE AND TEE 55/1 11.55w/p
VARIETY SHOW 9/2 0.95w/p
CROWN HEIGHTS 16/10 win
IKATI 5/2 4/10w/p
AUTHENTICATED 10/1 23/10w/p
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
> Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
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>
> > Vaal sand
> > FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
> > others to follow
>
> GEE AND TEE 55/1 11.55w/p
> VARIETY SHOW 9/2 0.95w/p
> CROWN HEIGHTS 16/10 win
> IKATI 5/2 4/10w/p
> AUTHENTICATED 10/1 23/10w/p
INCOMODO 4/1 0.76 w/p
ROMAN WARRIOR 25/1 4/1w/p
> Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
>
>
> > Vaal sand
> > FESTIVE INTERLUDE 5/1 8/10w/p
> > others to follow
>
> GEE AND TEE 55/1 11.55w/p
> VARIETY SHOW 9/2 0.95w/p
> CROWN HEIGHTS 16/10 win
> IKATI 5/2 4/10w/p
> AUTHENTICATED 10/1 23/10w/p
INCOMODO 4/1 0.76 w/p
ROMAN WARRIOR 25/1 4/1w/p
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Turfontein
STAMFORD BRIDGE 5/2 win
SHEEN QUEEN 11/2 11/10w/p
EMPEROR AUGUSTUS 9/2 0.95w/p
CROWN GOLD 9/2 1.04w/p
others to follow
STAMFORD BRIDGE 5/2 win
SHEEN QUEEN 11/2 11/10w/p
EMPEROR AUGUSTUS 9/2 0.95w/p
CROWN GOLD 9/2 1.04w/p
others to follow
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:
> Turfontein
> STAMFORD BRIDGE 5/2 win
> SHEEN QUEEN 11/2 11/10w/p
> EMPEROR AUGUSTUS 9/2 0.95w/p
> CROWN GOLD 9/2 1.04w/p
> others to follow
TALLY BLUE 12/10 win
MYSTICAL JET 12/1 2.64w/p
SILENT PARTNER 12/1 2.04w/p
FIRE WHEEL 8/10 win
HALLOWED 8/1 1.84w/p
WINTER DESIRE 5/1 23/20
> Turfontein
> STAMFORD BRIDGE 5/2 win
> SHEEN QUEEN 11/2 11/10w/p
> EMPEROR AUGUSTUS 9/2 0.95w/p
> CROWN GOLD 9/2 1.04w/p
> others to follow
TALLY BLUE 12/10 win
MYSTICAL JET 12/1 2.64w/p
SILENT PARTNER 12/1 2.04w/p
FIRE WHEEL 8/10 win
HALLOWED 8/1 1.84w/p
WINTER DESIRE 5/1 23/20
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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Ziets you can`t quote morning prices with your structure,you don`t know how many units you need to place and the price will have usually changed ....
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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ha ha,the prices thing is a big thing imo
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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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hibernia Wrote:
> ha ha,the prices thing is a big thing imo
please don't get personal - we all know the prices in the morning are the same at race time (
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> ha ha,the prices thing is a big thing imo
please don't get personal - we all know the prices in the morning are the same at race time (

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Re: Re: Testing my structure -October month
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That's why you have to post your selections after the races, because otherwise the bookies shorten all your winners:D
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