Grooms strike? Press statement

JustinV Wrote:

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> cant use treatment of uk grooms compared to
> ours..then u must similarly compare treatment and
> training circumstances of trainers here compared
> to trainers in hong kong,uk etc..same goes for
> assistants and stable employees..matter of fact
> same goes for just about every low skilled labour
> job in this country..this is africa,not the first
> world..


Statements like this want to me make me vomit.

...........so don't worry improving the situation.
treat them like shit ...........after all they are blacks............we just happen to live in their country.

Phumalela need to build accomodation for these guys. They live in huts. Its not human. They dress like tramps not because they dont get enough money. Most of them spend their lives at the tote. See them all the time

hibernia Wrote:

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> Umilio R10000 in the uk wouldnt rent a 2 bed flat
> in my town

Do the grooms in the UK earn 750 pounds a month? Is that not a low wage in the uk?

agra Wrote:

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> JustinV Wrote:
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> > cant use treatment of uk grooms compared to
> > ours..then u must similarly compare treatment
> and
> > training circumstances of trainers here
> compared
> > to trainers in hong kong,uk etc..same goes for
> > assistants and stable employees..matter of fact
> > same goes for just about every low skilled
> labour
> > job in this country..this is africa,not the
> first
> > world..
>
>
> Statements like this want to me make me vomit.
>
> ...........so don't worry improving the
> situation.
> treat them like shit ...........after all they are
> blacks............we just happen to live in their
> country.

no obviously the situation should be improved,but its the whole industry not just the grooms..your last line is just pathetic

grooms are not underpaid compared to miners or domestic workers etc etc..my point is grooms are not being hard done by south african horse racing..that is the situiation of the entire country

@JustinV"

'cant use treatment of uk grooms compared to ours..then u must similarly compare'

If that be the case...

1.
Why compare our stakes with overseas and the standard of horse (or price)?

2.
How come our trainers take their own grooms/stable hands overseas for the Dubai International, etc? Must be outta place with those 'professionals'; maybe the 'muti' our chaps use that make our SA horses shine?

How come (as Tigershark observes) local trainers don't fly in overseas grooms (and pay them our rates)?

Rather than picking holes in my worn out jacket at Obama's Presidential inauguration, let's look for compromise and solutions.....win, win! (it was done at Codesa!)

because the grooms that go to dubai etc are the top class ones that have been mentioned in this thread and not the majority..surely that shouldnt be too hard to figure out

as for the overseas grooms thing..im not even going to waste my time replying to that..honestly..

there is no way any person could take that suggestion seriously so i can only presume its been brought up to try stir

JustinV Wrote:

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> grooms are not underpaid compared to miners or
> domestic workers etc etc..my point is grooms are
> not being hard done by south african horse
> racing..that is the situiation of the entire
> country


Miners are not under paid. U find me a job that requires 10 days training to earn a living of R12000.

and tigershark and umlilo trainers do try use grooms from zim and other countries in Sothern Africa..but the logistics are not easy as most are not legal..and they are much better than the general local groom

@JustinV:

'as for the overseas grooms thing..im not even going to waste my time replying to that..honestly..'

Just wondering why I have done that....wasting my time?

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That's the problem with this country.... to be honest!

please tell me why on earth a uk groom would come and work here in sa for less money