Got the Run Around

A few years ago I was at a tote outlet and had a reasonable win and wanted cash as I was going to charity gambling evening ...........went to the window and was told "no cash, will give you a cheque" told them I would take their cheque only if accompanied by a letter confirming they would accept my cheques in future.............they borrowed the cash from the neighbouring shops..........lol -

amazing - 5 or so years ago I had this discussion with some Phumela bass and thing are still the same- Vouchers should be outlawed as they are an instrument for problem gambling - Give the punter his money back or make an arrangement with a bank close by where he can cash that cheque

I have followed up and found out some info on this one, as I also would like cash when I win, so here goes -

1)How much CASH should a branch keep as its float ? R50k ? OK, so with 140 branches, they must keep about R7M in cash , at all times ? And when you win bigger ? What then ?
2)Brass, you were offered 3 options , namely a cheque, vouchers or immediate EFT.
3)Also, if you were to arrange with the manager, he would put your money aside and you could return later, or the next day, when sufficient balance was available.

With crime being what it is in this country, it would not make any sense other than to bank daily.

To my mind the options available are fair and good. I am happy with the system as it stands.

And Len Sham is spot on - cheque or eft - cash is too dangerous nowadays.

Louis while I admire your will to make things right and you often make good sense - sorry but this one you are not correct on ! I have been in this game many many years from all sides and I'm with Brass on this one . I didn't see him say he was offered an eft but that would be the oly option I would accept. I have sat in one of the bigger agencys for years now and watched and even experienced exactly what Brass has said I was offered vouchers and a cheque which I refused . I did not and am not allowed to play with a cheque so why should I accept one? And while I here your logic on crime that's not the punters problem it's the operators problem - don't make it the punters problem. In any casino if I win 50k I can get paid within a few minutes. I won 27 k about 2 months back and was sent to Loveday street then on to Turfontein and then on to Randburg to collect. Sorry LG it's crap ! It's poor service and lack of commitment to the very people that keep this game alive. On every open bet I have had I have always been paid immediately or offered an Eft which would be acceptable. P and TAB need to look after the punters the same as bookies do. I honestly think you have missed on this one just my opinion.

It's utter nonsense by the the time you sit waiting for your cash you finish up losing back almost half your voucher if not all. I've only experienced this in Joburg tote's. I find it strange that down in Durban at the majority of totes even in the crappy parts of town they pay you with no problems what so ever. I'll rather stick with punting online, Interbet's Barry and his team are fantastic.

Which crappy tote in kzn carries large cash amounts mr p? My father owned
3 tote agencies and I can tell you gc policy is bank maximum

louisg Wrote:

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> I have followed up and found out some info on this
> one, as I also would like cash when I win, so here
> goes -
>
> 1)How much CASH should a branch keep as its float
> ? R50k ? OK, so with 140 branches, they must keep
> about R7M in cash , at all times ? And when you
> win bigger ? What then ?
> 2)Brass, you were offered 3 options , namely a
> cheque, vouchers or immediate EFT.
> 3)Also, if you were to arrange with the manager,
> he would put your money aside and you could return
> later, or the next day, when sufficient balance
> was available.
>
> With crime being what it is in this country, it
> would not make any sense other than to bank
> daily.
>
> To my mind the options available are fair and
> good. I am happy with the system as it stands.


Louis u wrong my mate why must I take one of those options I played with cash therefore I want cash back the minute it goes all clear why must I wait for the next day. I'd like to see Marcus jooste being told sorry sir we dnt have cash please come back tomorrow. Do u see lotto outlets or casinos telling u they can't pay now. Like I said earlier branches and agencies wanna keep the cash for there regulars. Btw I went to turfontein at 4.30 to cash the ticket igot back 4 k from the 22800. The joke is my outlay was 5400 which I couldn't even recover. Let's c tomorrow

Brass I also think u have to be reasonable and sensible here, I would have certainly take the EFT, in fact would not like the cash, all my transactions with bookies over the last few years have been electronic. Sadly from me to them .

boys let us be clearon these i say be fore an eft would be the aceptable option for me but it is no offer in my tote and louis in my tote they also say cheque is only for amount bigger than i think 5 or 10 thousand. let me paint the picture louis we are educated the lot of punter they are no. so one of louisg groom play the r12 pa and he get lucky and win r2800. for these guy it is the substantiel amount no? so these guy who play and win small or loose for many year have achieve the dream that keep him from try all these year. very excited he go to vaal tote after work is probably 11 or 12am. when he get to tote he is told most time very rude is to early take these voucher and come back later. the groom is no happy and the cheque/eft is offer. to these guy who want to see the money HE won, i no think it is acceptable? what you think? also if he is old school he rather say he wait until he get money and be fore you now the money is begin to get punt be cause what he must do while he wait? for me is unaceptable. i here the crime aspect but criminals will hit when the money is there or be fore bank so these is just the excuse to me.may be the proper security is answer no the bull shit excuse. phumelela want there money more than they want customer satisfaction is my think about this story.

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> boys let us be clearon these i say be fore an eft
> would be the aceptable option for me but it is no
> offer in my tote and louis in my tote they also
> say cheque is only for amount bigger than i think
> 5 or 10 thousand. let me paint the picture louis
> we are educated the lot of punter they are no. so
> one of louisg groom play the r12 pa and he get
> lucky and win r2800. for these guy it is the
> substantiel amount no? so these guy who play and
> win small or loose for many year have achieve the
> dream that keep him from try all these year. very
> excited he go to vaal tote after work is probably
> 11 or 12am. when he get to tote he is told most
> time very rude is to early take these voucher and
> come back later. the groom is no happy and the
> cheque/eft is offer. to these guy who want to see
> the money HE won, i no think it is acceptable?
> what you think? also if he is old school he rather
> say he wait until he get money and be fore you now
> the money is begin to get punt be cause what he
> must do while he wait? for me is unaceptable. i
> here the crime aspect but criminals will hit when
> the money is there or be fore bank so these is
> just the excuse to me.may be the proper security
> is answer no the bull shit excuse. phumelela want
> there money more than they want customer
> satisfaction is my think about this story.

It is wrong - Vouchers should be banned -

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> Flash Harry Wrote:
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> > boys let us be clearon these i say be fore an
> eft
> > would be the aceptable option for me but it is
> no
> > offer in my tote and louis in my tote they also
> > say cheque is only for amount bigger than i
> think
> > 5 or 10 thousand. let me paint the picture
> louis
> > we are educated the lot of punter they are no.
> so
> > one of louisg groom play the r12 pa and he get
> > lucky and win r2800. for these guy it is the
> > substantiel amount no? so these guy who play
> and
> > win small or loose for many year have achieve
> the
> > dream that keep him from try all these year.
> very
> > excited he go to vaal tote after work is
> probably
> > 11 or 12am. when he get to tote he is told most
> > time very rude is to early take these voucher
> and
> > come back later. the groom is no happy and the
> > cheque/eft is offer. to these guy who want to
> see
> > the money HE won, i no think it is acceptable?
> > what you think? also if he is old school he
> rather
> > say he wait until he get money and be fore you
> now
> > the money is begin to get punt be cause what he
> > must do while he wait? for me is unaceptable. i
> > here the crime aspect but criminals will hit
> when
> > the money is there or be fore bank so these is
> > just the excuse to me.may be the proper
> security
> > is answer no the bull shit excuse. phumelela
> want
> > there money more than they want customer
> > satisfaction is my think about this story.
>
> It is wrong - Vouchers should be banned -

Flash i hear what you say but R2 800 cash compared to R22 000 big difference:S the R2800 person should be able to get cash....