the vaal what is going on

i love vall specially the sand one a little bit easy to get the form on sand on other tracks nightmare for me inner outer old new phewB)-

louis are you ok? i mean are you really ok? one race last week put johan j v v in top 5 and good for him is no mean he is top 5 at end of year when prize get give out come on re the year is no even begin. does leon train at the vaal or is he by private establishment like it say on jockey club site? like i say before THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH YOU DONT LIKE IS YOUR PROBLEM.

What problems are the air pollution at the vaal causing the horses
If any?

In terms of Mines environmental plans and reporting they have to do air monitoring and submit same to the DMR. The air qualities have to be within an acceptable range. So whilst it may be worse than a beautiful English countryside, it would have been within this range since the mine has been there, if not better now, due to stricter environmental monitoring.
This can only be a basis for an argument if we knew the air qualities around each of our training tracks. Failing that and given the myriad of other variables, im afraid it will only be speculation

I wonder what bedding and roughage these ideologists would give their horses, who breathe perfect air? Our JHB string spent a few months at the Vaal and trained them there for a few weeks. The tracks are far superior to what Ive seen elsewhere. Granted I've got a lot to still see, but the Vaal would be a centre of choice for me.

the air pollution has been at clairwood forever in fact it was worse before as a lot of industry has moved and the airport as well and one only has to look at the group one winners trained from there since day one to see it made very little difference...millard rixon kanemeyer ramsden woodruff bass c.laird eric sands snaith lunn tarry etc etc have trained from there..sand tracks have no base therefore horses dont hit a base and it is far kinder on their legs ..apparently vaal sand tracks similiar

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> the air pollution has been at clairwood forever in
> fact it was worse before as a lot of industry has
> moved and the airport as well and one only has to
> look at the group one winners trained from there
> since day one to see it made very little
> difference...millard rixon kanemeyer ramsden
> woodruff bass c.laird eric sands snaith lunn tarry
> etc etc have trained from there..sand tracks have
> no base therefore horses dont hit a base and it is
> far kinder on their legs ..apparently vaal sand
> tracks similiar

.....pollution has never been a problem at Clairwood because the wind never stops blowing ......and thus keeping anything noxious from the refinery and other industries away......same for Milnerton......however the Vaal Triangle is one of the worst air polluted area's in the country
......Sasol and Samancor are pumping some of the worst noxious polutants into the atmosphere....:

FH I have a horse in training at the Vaal. Is there a risk of him getting emphysema or lung cancer ? Recon I should move !! or tell my trainer to cut back on the fags smoked in his yard. FH one thing I do agree with you is the Vaal is a kak place in comparison to Kenilworth, Greyville or Turfontein, thats if you want to make a comparison ?! Nothing wrong with the trainers there bud.

Hahhaaa Lou good one buddy..."are you ok??..seriously are you ok??"..eish not directed at you Flash but I often wonder that about things in racing

.....the modern day high occurance of EIPH is directly related to noxious airbourne contaminants......:

L Nesdadt,B Kantor,M Jooste,A Boschoff, Englezakis, Blank,Mc Donald,L Werners,H Wilson,to name just a few are big owners in this game that have horses trained at the Vaal scrapyard,these guys are clearly not as bright as Flash(the misery)Harry. That's the vaal issue. You obviously have had bad experiences in this game,hence the way you talk about it all negativity,ive been following your posts,and have noticed that every time a new person comes on here looking for advise about the racing game you jump on the wagon and tell them why they shouldn't. They surely are adults and they can make up there own minds if they enjoy it or not.Clearly you know a lot of people and been around the block,but when I sit and read how you run down jockeys and trainers isoff sides.You probably haven't been either in your life.So here a few ideas,if you hate the game so much maybe try some games on facebook or a coffee shop where you can play bidge and tavli,instead of sitting here running it down.As for me the kak jockey,i made a great living in my riding career doing well overseas and here,which brings me to the part where you say I rode winners for you when you where by Danie,so how bright does that make you to have horses with a trainer that has a kak stable jock,and I don't remember any greek owner by Dani bar Psarakis,and hes dead.Anyway Buddy cheer up and don't worry about us here at the scrapyard,we all happy in our polluted, deseased little kingdom. Come pay us a visit and see for yourself if its as bad as you make it.We all trying to grow and if people read your negativity on here,it doesn't do us any favours,or take your licence out and have a go yourself,maybe we can all learn something.Anyway the Egyptian Malaka is signing off now,and im not gonna be a regular,i just had to let you know how I felt about your comments on here,and you probably are my senior,thats why I haven't fluked you for calling me a MALAKA.So you can reply on here cause its your favourite space,obviously I will read it,and after that you more than welcome to phone me cause theres a lot more I would like to tell you.083 3991370.Maybe you should just walk away from the game if you feel so bad and negative about it,cause theres people out there doing there damnest to make it work and fun.Anyway I hope you phone me and hope you feeling better after your ordeal.SHOT. THE GREEK.

That's why I only post one liners!! Stay out of the sh^t.