Try and Work This One Out

in real terms...the most the international syndicate put were about 100 000 rands....about $9000....thats peanuts in their terms....probably their 10 year old lightie playing with his...allowance

bigh Wrote:

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> who in their right mind will do this !!!!!!!!!


still confuses me considering our pools are so small....:S
i for one dont buy this comingling propaganda the operator preaches, the only ones that benefit is them with a bigger take out.

Think how easy it would be for a Curley type to do a betting coup,do aus bookies take the open bet on tote dividends ?

What if a big punter had a few bets running ? With done aus bookie or bucket shop ?

Justanotherpunter Wrote:

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> The problem with all of this is when the R20
> punter in the tote also backs Lite And Bright and
> it wins paying R1.10.
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> Suddenly the life blood of the industry says why
> would I want to have a bet.


There's another way to look at it, for the benefit of the R20 punter. All those who were on Hell's Kitchen collected R18.4, instead of the R8.0 it was paying before the big bet was struck.

Swings and roundabouts, which is exactly how a tote works.

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> the international punter had 1 winner in the 4th
> race....horse shortened by 27percent at the death


Quite right, the pool jumped up by almost R90,000 at the close, the bulk of which was on Mandolin Rain.

one question has ntn to do with thread but are there any trainers out there that punt using the tote for a win plce or atc bet?

This has often been asked and it is not sensible to play any ATC via a tote system where your success is just increasing the number of winning tickets and reducing your payout and if your trainer does I would not trust him to train my horse?

playing on the tote is all about timing.....if i wanna have 10k win on a horse on the tote...i will put it 10 minutes before the event....assume the horse is 4/1...when my bet is put on...my horse shortens to R1.60 a win....now in the 10 minutes leading up to the race...people start to see "value" on their other selections and are put off backing my horse...at the jump...after all the other bets were put in the pool..my horse invariably goes out to 5-6 rands a win.......but if i put that 10 at the death...i get 2.20 a win...i know of a lot of people who back the tote...but at a certain time

The question was regards ATC bets, I would also suggest not that clever to punt 10 grand on a tote rather than take a fixed price, might be ok on the July or Met but not on a maiden plate in Ngong
Lol

Mark my words, Chase The Cherry senario will be used to promote the tote on tellytrack.... ''misleading the punter'' again!!!

If your serious at the game ,value and maximising your profit are the most important parts of gambling imo,taken Tote wins can never guarentee this,especially when things like mentioned above happen

hibernia Wrote:

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> If your serious at the game ,value and maximising
> your profit are the most important parts of
> gambling imo,taken Tote wins can never guarentee
> this,especially when things like mentioned above
> happen

even it its a hobby the same would apply Bob...(tu)