Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:
> By the way anyone on this site got anything
> positive to say about Cape racing?

WE, there are a few on here who seem to only bet on CT racing, or near enough only so there are some clanners out there who obviously think its great.

Personally, without you, I'd be pretty much be lost there, lost I tell you! :) I even got a winner there the other day because I thought you had given it as your best of the weekend but when I went to say thanks I saw I was the true "idiot" and I got race 2 n 3 mixed up... you have given one starting with an A in R2 which lost and I thought you had said the one beginning with an A in R3 which won!! So, basically, you help me even when you don't give the right horse! :)-D A true story from the memoirs of the idiot >:D<

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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I enjoy cape racing, love it,but there are thing's that need addressing, a stricter controlled by stips,

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:
> By the way anyone on this site got anything
> positive to say about Cape racing?

When one's wife sleeps with someone else,does it matter what her good points are?

There are plenty positives in Cape Racing,but how does that help the sinking ship.

Police the game better as a first priority and you'll plug more than just a few holes.

The biggest problem facing the game in this country is that we make as if it's squeaky clean.What's the point of that when anybody with half a brain cell can see it isn't.

It's a dilemma facing many of the worlds sports right now,and when you have an industry that is wholely reliant on betting to stay alive,then surely the integrity of the sport is the greatest priority.

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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JanPunter what would be the point of "gambling' if It is squeaky clean?

If everyone off the street that hasn't become streetsmart over time can just open the door and become competitive from the word go...?
I for one will start losing interest very quickly...will start being complacent not to be on my toes with the challenges daily punting presents anymore...quite frankly I would hate racing if that ever happens...it's the thrill of the chase to perfection for me, the intricasies of getting it right after not only just quickly grabbing a racecard and looking at form to find the winner, but to look at the full picture, assessing the intent ... whether there is any value in the probability vs. the risk... If Cape or any racing would ever be that I would be bored and take on a new challenge...

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11 years 6 months ago
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Loopy..... you have too much time on your hands !! I used to win a helluva lot more 6 - 10 years ago when I did serious studying ... but life seems to happen a lot more now and even the 30 minutes I spend on the card is stolen from somewhere else :( ... and of course the number of times I top up my account is testament to the futility of 30 minutes

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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Loopy Logic Wrote:
> JanPunter what would be the point of "gambling' if
> It is squeaky clean?
>
> If everyone off the street that hasn't become
> streetsmart over time can just open the door and
> become competitive from the word go...?
> I for one will start losing interest very
> quickly...will start being complacent not to be on
> my toes with the challenges daily punting presents
> anymore...quite frankly I would hate racing if
> that ever happens...it's the thrill of the chase
> to perfection for me, the intricasies of getting
> it right after not only just quickly grabbing a
> racecard and looking at form to find the winner,
> but to look at the full picture, assessing the
> intent ... whether there is any value in the
> probability vs. the risk... If Cape or any racing
> would ever be that I would be bored and take on a
> new challenge...

Good luck to you if you have got the game so taped that you need to start with I handicap.

Personally,I just want the game to be well policed so that everyone starts on a level playing field when the gates open.

Clearly there is no such thing as squeaky clean,and the nuances of spotting something in a race that can be used next time are part of the excitement,but as stated orginally in this thread we are trying to get to the heart of why Cape Racing is not making money.

I think it is the perception of the man in the street that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

That imo is why it needs to be better policed so that turnovers will start to grow.

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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JAP I am sure the majority of punters are unaware that the Cape is any different to any other track here or internationally ?

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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scotia Wrote:
> JAP I am sure the majority of punters are unaware
> that the Cape is any different to any other track
> here or internationally ?

I don't agree.

Anyway,I'm off on holiday for two weeks so I'll just leave things to stew.

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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Enjoy, hope it's with bookies money ;)

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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More than 50 cents in every rand spent in South Africa is spent in the Gauteng area . It therefore stands to reason that racing in this area will be more prosperous . I beleive that these punters would make Cape racing succesful if the product they punted on was a quality product . Punters want to see good racing and good horses and yes it is not always possible to have the best at every meeting but to have a field of 6 average horses in a field does not really excite anyone .
This week there is no midweek meeting in the Cape , how do you expect to make money if you dont do the turnover !!!
From a business perspective the racing authorities spend big money getting the racing via television to all corners of the country yet there are people who benefit without paying towards that product and do not pay into the industry. It would be like a stock broker doing years of research and giving it for free to the public and then wondering why he is not making any money .Improve the product and then charge for it , people will pay to see it

South African cricket has a similar problem , in Australia , India and England they get 100 000 plus over a 5 day test . In South Africa we would be lucky to get 100 000 plus over the entire test series .

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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aluminium Wrote:
> More than 50 cents in every rand spent in South
> Africa is spent in the Gauteng area . It therefore
> stands to reason that racing in this area will be
> more prosperous . I beleive that these punters
> would make Cape racing succesful if the product
> they punted on was a quality product . Punters
> want to see good racing and good horses and yes it
> is not always possible to have the best at every
> meeting but to have a field of 6 average horses in
> a field does not really excite anyone .
> This week there is no midweek meeting in the Cape
> , how do you expect to make money if you dont do
> the turnover !!!
> From a business perspective the racing authorities
> spend big money getting the racing via television
> to all corners of the country yet there are people
> who benefit without paying towards that product
> and do not pay into the industry. It would be like
> a stock broker doing years of research and giving
> it for free to the public and then wondering why
> he is not making any money .Improve the product
> and then charge for it , people will pay to see it
>
>
> South African cricket has a similar problem , in
> Australia , India and England they get 100 000
> plus over a 5 day test . In South Africa we would
> be lucky to get 100 000 plus over the entire test
> series .

That's the SA economy Aluminium, not just racing...there's much more economy of scale in Gauteng...like trying to compare economy of the UK to Gauteng...they are not in Parallel

Cape Racing ( if You take the Time to understand It) is no more crooked than any other SA venue...

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Re: Re: Why Is Cape Racing A Failure?

11 years 6 months ago
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Justanotherpunter Wrote:
> Loopy Logic Wrote:
>
>
> > JanPunter what would be the point of "gambling'
> if
> > It is squeaky clean?
> >
> > If everyone off the street that hasn't become
> > streetsmart over time can just open the door
> and
> > become competitive from the word go...?
> > I for one will start losing interest very
> > quickly...will start being complacent not to be
> on
> > my toes with the challenges daily punting
> presents
> > anymore...quite frankly I would hate racing if
> > that ever happens...it's the thrill of the
> chase
> > to perfection for me, the intricasies of
> getting
> > it right after not only just quickly grabbing a
> > racecard and looking at form to find the
> winner,
> > but to look at the full picture, assessing the
> > intent ... whether there is any value in the
> > probability vs. the risk... If Cape or any
> racing
> > would ever be that I would be bored and take on
> a
> > new challenge...
>
> Good luck to you if you have got the game so taped
> that you need to start with I handicap.
>
> Personally,I just want the game to be well policed
> so that everyone starts on a level playing field
> when the gates open.
>
> Clearly there is no such thing as squeaky
> clean,and the nuances of spotting something in a
> race that can be used next time are part of the
> excitement,but as stated orginally in this thread
> we are trying to get to the heart of why Cape
> Racing is not making money.
>
> I think it is the perception of the man in the
> street that something is rotten in the state of
> Denmark.
>
> That imo is why it needs to be better policed so
> that turnovers will start to grow.


The game is a handicap Jap...for every winner there is a loser...and that loser is NEVER the tote taking a cut out the pool before the gates open. You decide which races to compete in, which one's you believe you got the edge...you want to play every race...you Will never have the edge in the long run...

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