Hong Kong is lost and it`s the bookies to blame !

One further point is that about 20% of the turnover bookmakers do is on overseas racing therefore 20 million should have paid to the overseas race clubs,if it hasnt been paid for how many years i rest my case.Phumelela should come clean and confirm it was or was not paid.

bobsmith Wrote:

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> One further point is that about 20% of the
> turnover bookmakers do is on overseas racing
> therefore 20 million should have paid to the
> overseas race clubs,if it hasnt been paid for how
> many years i rest my case.Phumelela should come
> clean and confirm it was or was not paid.

Could it have been subsumed within profits / reserves like the groom's accommodation grant money may have been and paid out as dividends ???

I went into William Hills today...hello they are betting and showing Shat TIN ... hello BOOKMAKERS


the above press release has me confused

hibernia Wrote:

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> I went into William Hills today...hello they are
> betting and showing Shat TIN ... hello BOOKMAKERS
>
>
> the above press release has me confused


im very confused as the turnover that the hk tote generate is billions so would they really be interested in a couple of south african rands?

bobsmith makes some very serious statements and im surprized there has been very little reaction to them..surely these allegations need some sort of inquiry?

pirates Wrote:

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> bobsmith makes some very serious statements and im
> surprized there has been very little reaction to
> them..surely these allegations need some sort of
> inquiry?


Maybe Phumelela and GC will take him to court and show what they paid to HK Racing

will phumelela out of principle get rid of betting world to please the hkjc.....

gregbucks Wrote:

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> will phumelela out of principle get rid of betting
> world to please the hkjc.....


Excellent point Greg

pirates Wrote:
> im very confused as the turnover that the hk tote
> generate is billions so would they really be
> interested in a couple of south african rands?

Not about amount of money it is about the principal and terms of agreement .....the partnership PGE/GC (and you may know very well that John Stuart went traipsing all over the globe) to put agreements in place to sell(ours) and receive pictures from numerous other racing jurisdictions. Now with all this fuss of loosing a pivotal broadcast partner(DSTV) his HK counterparts are realizing that they had been duped as I do not think that they were kept in the "picture" as far as the access that bookmakers had to their picture.....:

Hi Dave,

I noticed a thread on your site regarding Hong Kong racing been broadcast
in Australia and the UK. I cannot answer for the UK yet but will get the
information in due course. It certainly isn't shown as part of the regular
bookmakers fare.

For Australia I do have the details. TabCorp import the product and send it
out on various channels. This would be viewed in their shops. There are no
retail bookmaker shops in Australia so this is not a problem. What happens
is that the online bookmakers, who are licensed in the Northern Territory,
do take bets on the product. However they do so without any streaming of
the product an they do so without agreement. So essentially they are
pirating the product.

We do hope to have some good news on the Hong Kong front. They may allow us
to broadcast the product as long as we display the fact that bookmakers are
not permitted to bet on it. We expect a decision soon.

Regards

Things fall apart...

hibernia Wrote:

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> Hi Dave,
>
> I noticed a thread on your site regarding Hong
> Kong racing been broadcast
> in Australia and the UK. I cannot answer for the
> UK yet but will get the
> information in due course. It certainly isn't
> shown as part of the regular
> bookmakers fare.
>
> For Australia I do have the details. TabCorp
> import the product and send it
> out on various channels. This would be viewed in
> their shops. There are no
> retail bookmaker shops in Australia so this is not
> a problem. What happens
> is that the online bookmakers, who are licensed in
> the Northern Territory,
> do take bets on the product. However they do so
> without any streaming of
> the product an they do so without agreement. So
> essentially they are
> pirating the product.
>
> We do hope to have some good news on the Hong Kong
> front. They may allow us
> to broadcast the product as long as we display the
> fact that bookmakers are
> not permitted to bet on it. We expect a decision
> soon.
>
> Regards


.....Oh goodie a glimmer of hope....yes Betting World will not offer bets easy....the rest of the bookies may still offer the open bet options but are at risk with the potential local pool manipulation....: