Hassan Adams - pissed off

WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:

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> Must admit didn't expect him to carry on like that
> on TV......the word was out and he knew that if
> the horse loaded and jumped it would win.....the
> choice was his to bet or not......and he didn't.So
> to carry on afterwards was uncalled for.....

W E i believe that Daring Dave bled??

Titch Wrote:

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> WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:
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> > Must admit didn't expect him to carry on like
> that
> > on TV......the word was out and he knew that if
> > the horse loaded and jumped it would
> win.....the
> > choice was his to bet or not......and he
> didn't.So
> > to carry on afterwards was uncalled for.....
>
> W E i believe that Daring Dave bled??

Unsure but the way he hung across the course and "stopped" can well be signs of bleeding....

Titch Wrote:

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> being a first timer 10/1 into 4/1 is hardly a huge
> betting move..no doubt due to the fact that the
> horse has a problem with the stalls and could
> quite easily have lost the race at the start ...


Are you for real?

Can you work out the difference between betting R10k on a 10/1 versus R10k on a 4/1.

I would prefer a win of R100k to R40k, unless you feel that the difference is not substantial.

Curious, as to what your interpretation of a huge move is.

when last did anyone get 10k on a first timer at the price 10000/1000 represents a claim and the price is halved...

Nobody knows the real story just agree to put two horses in the same race u often end up with egg on your face the I was surprised to see the stable jock on the first timer may well be he knows the horse and was the best option to get him in the pens. I feel sorry for the trainer common logic says that why would he middle his biggest owner so it was either jocks who knew the graft or punters looking at riding engagements as rich says backing first timers is for the birds risk high and reward half as the claim is so small.

now i wonder does Mr Adams statements bring racing into disrepute? If not the WHY did TELETRACK can that interview as it is a R18 station so you would expect a phrase like "pissed off" to be allowed?

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> now i wonder does Mr Adams statements bring racing
> into disrepute? If not the WHY did TELETRACK can
> that interview as it is a R18 station so you would
> expect a phrase like "pissed off" to be allowed?

correct
and brings me to the question of why Gavin Venter was "jocked off".
Was told at the time he brought racing into disrepute.

agra Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > now i wonder does Mr Adams statements bring
> racing
> > into disrepute? If not the WHY did TELETRACK
> can
> > that interview as it is a R18 station so you
> would
> > expect a phrase like "pissed off" to be
> allowed?
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> correct
> and brings me to the question of why Gavin Venter
> was "jocked off".
> Was told at the time he brought racing into
> disrepute.

I don't know any other facts other than what I've read here but if he said it then he can explain that to the NHRA as any new owner surely would feel that he had no real chance in this Industry if a Major owner could be played in that way. I believe Mr Adams may have a point but he aired it on National TV(thankfully according to Multichoice not a very often viewed channel or that statement would chase away any new owner with half a brain) I think he should have taken the win and then taken any steps he felt appropriate against his stable as many other people have done in the past. I personally have met many people in the industry that do have integrity as owners, trainers, jocks etc

nobody has ever been put in jail for backing 2 horses in a race...

nish 77 Wrote:

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> And here I thought only the small owners got
> screwed by their so called big trainers


So true it eases my pain to see that not only the little people including myself get F#%#&# over

SUPERSTAR Wrote:

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> nish 77 Wrote:
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> > And here I thought only the small owners got
> > screwed by their so called big trainers
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> So true it eases my pain to see that not only the
> little people including myself get F#%#&# over


and hence he brings Racing and Owning into disrepute

Has to be something more to this,maybe Adams just seek of getting fed bullshit?