Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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bad company Wrote:
> The funniest thing is that the guys who believe
> religiously MDK has a magic wand and just waves it
> and produces gr1 winners never gives him horses,
> cmon boys why do you guys support trainers who
> have not won gr1 yet you say its all about the
> trainer????
because I don't have the money to give him a horse simple with graded potential(also Woody, Tarry, Kannemeyer, Bass, Ferraris, Howells and a few others including the Shams if I still owned) - It is not about the ability of the horse but the ability of the trainer to get the most out of the horse be it a MR64 or MR105 - Perhaps my example of Man U does not suite you so I'll add Ackermann as the Lions coach -I cannot believe that Racing is the only "Sport" where the "coach" is absolved of any liability and the major responsibility for performance relies on the "players". That cannot be true.
> The funniest thing is that the guys who believe
> religiously MDK has a magic wand and just waves it
> and produces gr1 winners never gives him horses,
> cmon boys why do you guys support trainers who
> have not won gr1 yet you say its all about the
> trainer????
because I don't have the money to give him a horse simple with graded potential(also Woody, Tarry, Kannemeyer, Bass, Ferraris, Howells and a few others including the Shams if I still owned) - It is not about the ability of the horse but the ability of the trainer to get the most out of the horse be it a MR64 or MR105 - Perhaps my example of Man U does not suite you so I'll add Ackermann as the Lions coach -I cannot believe that Racing is the only "Sport" where the "coach" is absolved of any liability and the major responsibility for performance relies on the "players". That cannot be true.
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them into champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them if im not mistaken...

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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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gregbucks Wrote:
> Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them into
> champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them if
> im not mistaken...
and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called AL NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that man;)
> Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them into
> champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them if
> im not mistaken...

and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called AL NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that man;)
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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mr hawaii Wrote:
> gregbucks Wrote:
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> > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> into
> > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them
> if
> > im not mistaken...
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> and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called AL
> NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that man;)
Lisa Prestwood aboard
> gregbucks Wrote:
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> > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> into
> > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them
> if
> > im not mistaken...

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> and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called AL
> NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that man;)
Lisa Prestwood aboard
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Just a question. If Mike takes a horse from any trainer and improves it 3% over 1000m and Anton improves it another 3% as he is better than the other jockey. Will that horse run 60m better than he did before he moved?
Ps can you imagine how much he would improve if as some think, the trainer and jockey make up for 20+% each of how the horse runs! Improve over 400m?:S:D


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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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PeeKay Wrote:
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > gregbucks Wrote:
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> > > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> > into
> > > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of
> them
> > if
> > > im not mistaken...
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> > and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called
> AL
> > NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that
> man;)
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> Lisa Prestwood aboard
hahaha... is that the horse that tried to bit its stablemate...(
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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > gregbucks Wrote:
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> > > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> > into
> > > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of
> them
> > if
> > > im not mistaken...

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> > and a KZN miler/middle distance battler called
> AL
> > NITAK that won Golden Horse Sprint with that
> man;)
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> Lisa Prestwood aboard
hahaha... is that the horse that tried to bit its stablemate...(

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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Craig Eudey Wrote:
> Just a question. If Mike takes a horse from any
> trainer and improves it 3% over 1000m and Anton
> improves it another 3% as he is better than the
> other jockey. Will that horse run 60m better than
> he did before he moved?
Ps can you imagine how
> much he would improve if as some think, the
> trainer and jockey make up for 20+% each of how
> the horse runs! Improve over 400m?:S:D
Craig maybe Flyfirstclass can win the Dubai sprint next year.
> Just a question. If Mike takes a horse from any
> trainer and improves it 3% over 1000m and Anton
> improves it another 3% as he is better than the
> other jockey. Will that horse run 60m better than
> he did before he moved?


> much he would improve if as some think, the
> trainer and jockey make up for 20+% each of how
> the horse runs! Improve over 400m?:S:D
Craig maybe Flyfirstclass can win the Dubai sprint next year.

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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Craig
BUT you assuming that the horse in YOUR care is running to 1000 the fact is its running to 945 and then the 60m makes it a winner......
BUT you assuming that the horse in YOUR care is running to 1000 the fact is its running to 945 and then the 60m makes it a winner......
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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If they can get him sound and improve him as much as many expect he will then have you maximum bet!

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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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Craig i have employed Managers,
manager A works harder and is more Dilligent than Manager B.
Manager A wins a contract and Manager B loses a contract
.Result Manager A gets a bonus and Manager B gets the my big toe up her erse
This is why MDK is in Dubai and """££$%%^ the shit
manager A works harder and is more Dilligent than Manager B.
Manager A wins a contract and Manager B loses a contract
.Result Manager A gets a bonus and Manager B gets the my big toe up her erse
This is why MDK is in Dubai and """££$%%^ the shit
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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gregbucks Wrote:
> Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them into
> champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them if
> im not mistaken...
Herman brown won a gr1 in dubai and singapore yet you think he is shit
> Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them into
> champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them if
> im not mistaken...

Herman brown won a gr1 in dubai and singapore yet you think he is shit
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Re: Re: Meydan Saturday 29/3/14
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bad company Wrote:
> gregbucks Wrote:
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> > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> into
> > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them
> if
> > im not mistaken...
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> Herman brown won a gr1 in dubai and singapore yet
> you think he is shit
Was the horse a battler or seasoned Grade 1 campaigner....
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> gregbucks Wrote:
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> > Buddy Maroun took battlersl and turned them
> into
> > champions... ALL WILL BE WELL being one of them
> if
> > im not mistaken...

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> Herman brown won a gr1 in dubai and singapore yet
> you think he is shit
Was the horse a battler or seasoned Grade 1 campaigner....

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