Good morning from Variety Club

davetheflower Wrote:

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> The Madji Wrote:
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> > A wise forummer once said of VC...' a very good
> > miler but not a champion' ....tsk, tsk ,tsk
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> That may have been me that said " a very good
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> But I also said " England would win The Ashes "
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> But I can't remember saying "not a champion", if I
> did then I'm as wrong as that guy up in London who
> keeps saying "the end is nigh"
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> Why is VC with MDK now,Ramsden must be gutted.

De Kock has a better overseas set up and experience, so it only made sense to change stables.
Also, although under the name of Ramsden, De Kock looked after him in Dubai.

Not taking anything away from Ramsdens work with VC in SA.

what was that 1st stake in HONG KONG ?

how much has VC won up until now ?

VC been given a rating of 126, rating him the 2nd best on the planet

Txs Bob

hibernia Wrote:

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> VC been given a rating of 126, rating him the 2nd
> best on the planet


Well then does he now claim the mantle of South Africa's best ever horse(We cannot included those that raced here without going International) as he has out performed them all including Horse Chestnut?

Mr H short memory? What about Jay Peg?

elmer Wrote:

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> Mr H short memory? What about Jay Peg?


Sorry but Jaypeg is no Variety Club as he did not dominate his home country or the world where as VC has -

J J THE JET PLANE 122
Soft Falling Rain 122
Jay Peg was rated 120
Shea Shea 120
Vercingetorix 117
The Apache 117 before he was disqualified
Sun Classique 115

VC will mature into the best miler in the world
No dought one of our greatest ever !

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> > Mr H short memory? What about Jay Peg?
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> Sorry but Jaypeg is no Variety Club as he did not
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Steve,,obviously VC has more races to come ,but Jay Peg earned over R30m ,which is 50% more than VC at this stage!!!!! (and Jay Peg had 13 runs in SA plus a handful overseas) VC had 19 in SA and ,so far,a handful overseas.
Don't think we should discount the ability of Jay peg!

(an interesting thing would be for someone to ask A Marcus how he rates both,having ridden both in their more important victories)

Make no mistake I rate VC right up there At a mile he is probably better than JP but over further
one would have to say JP
Same as always We all have opinions and I respect most other persons .
Best horse I ever saw Sea Cottage next Gatecrasher but also remember Hawaii Elevation
Colorado King who Syd Laird rated superior ti Sea Cottage
So work it out!!!

elmer Wrote:

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> Make no mistake I rate VC right up there At a mile
> he is probably better than JP but over further
> one would have to say JP
> Same as always We all have opinions and I respect
> most other persons .
> Best horse I ever saw Sea Cottage next Gatecrasher
> but also remember Hawaii Elevation
> Colorado King who Syd Laird rated superior ti Sea
> Cottage
> So work it out!!!

Agree entirely.................I think we are all more impressed emotionally with current achievements rather than history.!