Pig juice

....was not refering to the Kim case....but then the NHRA are not known to turn over rule breakers to the SAP....besides do you think SAPS have the means to persue matters such as these....more chance of silver crossing palms and gone and forgotten.... :blink:

Muhtiman wrote: ....was not refering to the Kim case....but then the NHRA are not known to turn over rule breakers to the SAP....besides do you think SAPS have the means to persue matters such as these....more chance of silver crossing palms and gone and forgotten.... :blink:

If an organization like the NHRA laid a criminal charge against the Trainer as is their duty , then the state would have to prosecute or throw out the case if the evidence did not stand up. You won't know until you try. If the actions of corrupt individuals can cause serious damage to the reputation of an industry based solely on wagering then I think the onus is on the protectors to act. I very much doubt that silver would cross palms here as the case would be in the public eye from the offset so no officer would take that chance.

A Greyhound trainer was jailed in the UK the other day for " cheating "

Mr H.... you know how easy....and often.... evidence goes missing ?

Bob Brogan wrote: A Greyhound trainer was jailed in the UK the other day for " cheating "

If for example it were found that certain Lotto balls were "adjusted" to give a know result I have no doubt that the perpetrator would face criminal charges. Now if a trainer spikes his horse to get an advantage(proven because the horse wins and multiples of scientific proof to back it up) then why is this not handed over to the Fraud unit? Just one prosecution and it'll drop but when it is handled in-house with fines then no real deterrent. In the UK their are proposals to jail athletes that are drug cheats - Racing is different because the whole fabric is betting - You cannot undermine the product by showing leniency (Smith's case shows that - compare his fine and multiple transgressions with Kannemeyer's single transgression and you cannot marry the two -) as it is your current and potential new customers that now decide Racing is crook. If this was the 80's when Racing was in its prime this story would make front page news. Perhaps the best and most prudent course of action would be to send out a memo to all trainers informing them that serious drug transgressions will be dealt with harshly and will be handed over to SAPS to investigate also.

Magi wrote: Mr H.... you know how easy....and often.... evidence goes missing ?

Obviously not that often as our jails are full - Let's not make this an attack on our Criminal Justice system but rather let them do their job and if that fails then we can moan. But until then how do we know if a crime is committed or not if we don't at least LAY A CHARGE? And the best part is the NHRA will not have to waste money on counsel as the State Prosecutor will do the job. Gambling is a Public per suite so it is up to the state to protect our interests.

.....Mr H ....not gong to happen as the NHRA is partially complisit in turning a blind eye to in training use of steriods for decades.....only now have they spoken up and acted in the case of P L Smith who has become their 1st example.....as for DK this latest fine is not his 1st transgression as he was fined R30K in the same year that Eyeofthetiger won the July....

Muhtiman wrote: .....Mr H ....not gong to happen as the NHRA is partially complisit in turning a blind eye to in training use of steriods for decades.....only now have they spoken up and acted in the case of P L Smith who has become their 1st example.....as for DK this latest fine is not his 1st transgression as he was fined R30K in the same year that Eyeofthetiger won the July....

The rules as they stand say "The time period applicable to prior offences
It is accepted that a prior offence, which occurred more than 5 years prior to the
contravention being inquired into, will be disregarded for the purpose of applying
the guidelines."

I don't have a problem with this for minor transgressions as people can reform or may have made a legitimate error.

.....and so be it....but it is no error when a substance meant for keeping pigs lean and muscular is found in horses.... :huh:

Trainer D Kannemeyer The National Horseracing Authority confirms that at an Inquiry held in Cape Town on 3 November 2006, Trainer Mr D Kannemeyer was charged with a contravention of Rule 73.2.4 in that he was the person responsible for the horse EASY MONEY at the time when a specimen taken from this horse after it had participated in and won the 6th Race at the Kenilworth Racecourse on 11 February 2006, disclosed upon analysis the presence of Prednisone and Prednisolone which are prohibited substances in terms of the Rules of The National Horseracing Authority.

Mr Kannemeyer pleaded guilty to and was found guilty of the charge. The Inquiry Board imposed a fine of R30 000.00.

Mr Kannemeyer has the right of appeal against the penalty imposed.

Furthermore, in terms of Rule 72.3.2 EASY MONEY is disqualified from the 6th Race run at the Kenilworth Racecourse on 11 February 2006 and the provisions of Rule 67.7.8 shall apply.

NHRA Press Release

May have happened long ago but surely one would try and keep a clean slate.....DK is at the moment the punters darling and so not much said.....but when GVZ got several positives in his relatively short training career people here were baying for his blood..... :S

Muhtiman wrote: .....and so be it....but it is no error when a substance meant for keeping pigs lean and muscular is found in horses.... :huh:

Don't get me wrong I think the sentence of 100k is good - I just can't marry 100k with the 7k Smith was fined for them finding Testosterone in his stables never-mind the other stuff in his own personal DISCHEM. I would have been happy with Smith warned off and 100k for DK. DK almost pays the same amount as Smith yet the Flamingo "trainer" does not even posses a Medical Register and is allowed to train on.

Other clanners are far more up to speed than I on this but just the "feeling" of an easy-come, easy-go punter... fine 'em proper first time up and take no account of these "bollox" mitigating circumstances (I bet there would then be a lot less mitigating circumstances... I don't often bet when something is "odds-on" but I would with that one!!) and if found guilty a second time, ban the farkers for life. And I think that is blardy lenient!