Hearing there is a big Dispersal sale soon

It will be a good learning curve for him for his future racing.He will see what the real value of his horses are and the prices that he sells the unraced horse for will be at a huge loss as the underbidders might not be there.

rob faux wrote: If you look at some of the horses for sale ,many of the older ones are perhaps understandable.
There are also a number of unraced 3 yr olds (and the odd 4yr old)which may or may not be showing anything!
...but what is significant is the many well bred 2 yr olds !!!
Will be interesting to see where VVuurens involvement in racing is going!
I wonder if there will be any media release .........surely there is an interesting story in this for a journalist somewhere!

I thought he made it pretty clear earlier on why he was getting out as a big owner. It seems to me that he was getting a lot of abuse from every tom dick and Harry on racing forums the racing press, and from pundits . Abashiri running in the July, his purchase of expensive horses who were not performing, were all fodder for a bunch of disparaging remarks from opinionated people who really have no stake in his affairs. Some of the stuff was personal. Obviously an enthusiastic family who were enjoying racing who got soured by all the BS. Why spend all that money on a hobby that inherently has so many downs, that the few ups you get are tarnished by random people ? He may have been a bit thin skinned about some of the comments and opinions, but it did seem to me some petty people were taking great delight in sticking the boot in wherever they could.
Huge loss to the industry.

Over the Air wrote:

rob faux wrote: Even at discounted prices,just the costs of the "for sale" horses must exceed R500,000 per month

Working on a conservative 10k a month you are not at 50% of the figure. The question that must be asked is why is he leaving, there is more to this than meets the eye and there are some very tall stories doing the rounds.

I wonder if maybe he cannot discuss the reasons ,AND keep his colors, due to a new rule instituted by the NHA .....lol

LOL @ Rob.

Nico will be sad..not being able call their names after winning!

according to TAB stats the Azzie yard earned just over 2 million is stakes between 1Aug - 1Nov if all the horses on sale are from one yard then he is losing around 350k per month ( 100 horses @ 10k per month) with a capital investments of millions
hopefully he made it back on punting

triple tempo wrote: Nico will be sad..not being able call their names after winning!

And their full names at that

would anyone have a idea of what these horses originally cost them ? too the closest 10 million would be a good answer

Surely his loss in training fees alone would be approx. R1 million? per month ........ :huh:

I often wondered who the "real " owners of the horses were?.... :oops:

Article by Sarah Whitelaw

Bloodstock South Africa are proud to announce the catalogue for the November Mixed Sale is now online.

The one day sale will be held at the TBA complex in Germiston and is scheduled to take place on November 16th, when trading will get underway at 16:00pm.

Prominent owners Adriaan and Rika Van Vuuren will be offering 135 lots catalogued, with the Van Vuuren contingent including both unraced juveniles and proven prospects.

Among the lots of interest are such appealing prospects as:

Lot 7 Splendid Garden –a half brother to former champion and exciting young Wilgerbosdrift sire Soft Falling Rain, Splendid Garden is a proven high class performer who finished second in the 2016 G3 Tommy Hotspur Handicap

Lot8 Greek Legend –this son of Black Minnaloushe is a smart performer, who has already won four and who finished third to subsequent Derby hero Ertijaal in the Listed Sea Cottage Stakes

Lot 10 –an unraced 2yo daughter of last season’s Leading First Crop Sire Gimmethegreenlight, this unnamed bay is a half sister to G3 filly Qui Success and five other winners

Lot 11 –another unraced 2yo, this colt is by champion sire Silvano out of National Assembly’s G3 winning daughter Golden Shina

Lot 15 Colombina, from the first crop of G1 Middle Park Stakes winner Crusade, this unraced 2yo is out of Listed East Cape Fillies Nursery winner Hard To Get

Lot 18 Frosted Honey –runner up in the G2 SA Fillies Nursery, this filly holds plenty of appeal both as a racing prospect and as a future broodmare

Lot 20 this unraced 2yo colt has a stallion’s pedigree- by champion Australian sire and sprinter Fastnet Rock he is out of the French G1 winner Imperial Beauty

Lot 25 Jive Five, this unraced 2yo is a son of champion sire Silvano out of stakes placed Jabulani Jive and is a half brother to the smart Jubilee Line

Lot 28 this unraced and unnamed 2yo is from the first crop of multiple Equus Champion What A Winter and is out of G2 two-year-old Kesha

Lot 29 Fort Augustus, this unraced 2yo is a Fort Wood three parts brother to Horse Of The Year Celtic Grove and is also closely related to the stakes placed dam of Equus Champion Marinaresco

Lot 31 Khetiwe, this blue blooded filly is superbly bred –and sure to find favour with buyers looking for a potential broodmare. By triple Australian champion sire Redoute’s Choice, she is a sister in blood to Redoute’s Choice sired champion Miss Finland

Lot 38 this unraced and unnamed 2yo is a daughter of champion sprinter, and red hot sire Choisir, and she is out of a half sister to an Australian G2 winner

Lot 39 –by a champion son of the great sire Hussonet, this unnamed 2yo colt is out of a daughter of outstanding sire Medaglia D’Oro and his second dam is a half sister to legendary champion Cigar
Lot 47 Easy Lover, a proven high class performer, this gelding, whose wins include the Listed Thukela Handicap, has earned over R700 000 in stakes

Lot 49 Le Close, a smart 3yo of his year, the son of Jay Peg finished third (beaten under a length) in the G3 Tony Ruffel Stakes and competed in some of the major classics of his year

Lot 50 from the first crop of Horse Of The Year Irish Flame (by Dynasty), this unraced 2yo colt is out of a daughter of champion sire Fastnet Rock and hails from the family of champions Arazi and Noverre

Lot 53 from the first crop of French Derby winner Reliable Man, this unraced 2yo filly is from the immediate family of G1 winner Reigning To Win

Lot 57 Horse Power, an unraced 2yo, this colt is a Judpot half brother to 4 winners, including the feature race winners Miss Mischief and White Mischief

Lot 60 an unraced 2yo, this filly is a half sister to 7 winners including G3 winner and July contender Mambo Mime

Lot 66 –another unraced 2yo, this well bred colt is by US champion and top sire Bernardini and out of a daughter of Oaks winner Bravery

Lot 70 Aussie Austin, a lightly raced son of a Breeders Cup winner, this 3yo impressed when breaking his maiden by three lengths at just the second time of asking

Lot 71 –from the first crop of Frankel’s three parts brother Bullet Train, this unraced 2yo hails from the same family as former Japan Cup winner Marvellous Crown

Lot 78 Oomph –one of the best 2yos of his era, Oomph is already a dual feature race winner with his victories including a 6.25 length win in the Listed Dahlia Plate

Lot 85 this unnamed 2yo, by former Breeders’ Cup hero Pluck, is out of a winning own sister to a G1 Thousand Guineas runner up and is bred on similar lines to leading Australian sire Sebring

Lot 90 this blue blooded 2yo colt is bred to be a stallion –he is by the great sire Redoute’s Choice (sire of current SA sensation Table Bay) out of a winning Encosta De Lago half sister to Hong Kong legend Silent Witness

Lot 96 Spring Wonder –a stakes placed daughter of rising sire star Querari, Spring Wonder holds appeal both as a racing prospect –and as a future stud prospect

Lot 97 Deputy Jud, as versatile as he was talented, millionaire Deputy Jud won the G2 Supreme Cup (over1450m) and ran second in the G1 SA Derby (over 2450m)

Lot 103 Tycoon Chief, this regally bred winning filly is a sister in blood to Australian champion and multiple G1 winner More Joyous and hails from the mighty Denise’s Joy family

Lot 112 A Woman’s Will–already a winner, this filly is a full sister to last season’s G2 winning 2yo A Womens Way

The catalogue can be viewed online at www.tba.co.za/pdf/2016nmix_ped.pdf

Do you think 100 million dropped in the last 3 years is to conservative ? It sure is a big loss for the game as I quite enjoyed their new fresh enthusiasm. But someone previously on this forum said "this game tames tigers" :whistle:

Figures for oomph ranged from r5m - r10m ( kid you not )

Wonder what he paid for Lazer Star ?