Durban July Log

Mac wrote: MR's are not the only criteria which gets you a run. Recent form in conjunction with MR's is also a criteria with the evaluators.

I know that's what they are saying - but what is 'form' - Black Jaguar ran 2.75 lengths behind Marinaresco in his first run since December - so someone is judging this 'form' to be not good enough to give him a spot in the top 25 Imo, ratings obtained in races should be used to measure 'form' - yes he did run 10th out of 14 - but IF someone took the trouble to rate the race, it would show that he ran to a 103 at least - imo that 'form' is better than the 'form' of Elusive Silva when he beat Helderberg Blue the other day (receiving 4.5 kgs) by 1.75 lengths - running to around 96 imo - and that's assuming that both Wild Brier and Street Flyer (also in that race) both ran as much as 5 points higher than rated :ohmy:

And I have no soft spot for Black Arthur and I haven't put a cent on him (yet) - but this log is inaccurate to put it very mildly (croc of sh*t probably a better description)

They are very lucky that the men, women and horses that went before them made the July into what it is..otherwise it would be a no go zone.

Over the Air wrote:

Mac wrote: MR's are not the only criteria which gets you a run. Recent form in conjunction with MR's is also a criteria with the evaluators.

If you look at the conditions it is very clear that Gold Circle can basically do what they like..... The judges decision is final and no correspondence will be entered into springs to mind. Pirates asks relevant questions on SP. It is a disgrace that the countries "premier race" has become a thing of opinion amongst some not so wise men.

You would think with all the drama over the past few years that Gold Circle would have cleared all this up by now.

Prish007 wrote:

PeeKay wrote: Do you think Delpech is going to take the ride on Elusive Silva?

he has a lot of choices. I guess we will have to wait and the next few races

Delpech to win the July on Master Switch

From a sporting post article www.sportingpost.co.za/2017/05/vodacom-d...ces-july-qualifiers/

Automatic entry for winning any of this seasons

The L’Ormarins Queens Plate
The SunMet
The Investec Cape Derby
The SA Classic
The SA Fillies Classic
The SA Derby
Premier’s Champions Challenge
Daily News 2000
Woolavington 2000
Rising Sun Gold Challenge

Winners of the following races in the current season will enjoy preferential consideration for inclusion in the final field:-
Sansui Summer Cup (Gr 1)
Betting World 1900 (Gr 2)
Cup Trial (Gr 3)
Jubilee Handicap (Gr 3)

Bob Brogan wrote: From a sporting post article www.sportingpost.co.za/2017/05/vodacom-d...ces-july-qualifiers/

Automatic entry for winning any of this seasons

The L’Ormarins Queens Plate
The SunMet
The Investec Cape Derby
The SA Classic
The SA Fillies Classic
The SA Derby
Premier’s Champions Challenge
Daily News 2000
Woolavington 2000
Rising Sun Gold Challenge

Winners of the following races in the current season will enjoy preferential consideration for inclusion in the final field:-
Sansui Summer Cup (Gr 1)
Betting World 1900 (Gr 2)
Cup Trial (Gr 3)
Jubilee Handicap (Gr 3)

I have no problem with qualifying races(punters an then take ante post knowing they will get a run if the owners wish it) but for me it is top heavy catering for three-year-olds - 6 of the 10 races to auto-qualify - either the Classic or the Derby but no both - Cape Derby does produce top horses but early in the season and some horses that have run well there are milers more than stayers and class pulls them through

The missing link wrote:

Prish007 wrote:

PeeKay wrote: Do you think Delpech is going to take the ride on Elusive Silva?

he has a lot of choices. I guess we will have to wait and the next few races

Delpech to win the July on Master Switch

Me think , Delpech on Black Arthur

So now we have a list - has this list been published anywhere else before ? I think that the bookies would have priced up differently had the list been 'common knowledge'

And I agree with Mr H in that this list is top-heavy in favor of the 3yr olds .... anyway I suppose that's the way it is and I suspect that there will be a few disappointed owners of older horses come final acceptance ...

Candy wrote:

The missing link wrote:

Prish007 wrote:

PeeKay wrote: Do you think Delpech is going to take the ride on Elusive Silva?

he has a lot of choices. I guess we will have to wait and the next few races

Delpech to win the July on Master Switch

Me think , Delpech on Black Arthur

Happy if Marcus wins on Master Switch too :lol:

Candy wrote:

The missing link wrote:

Prish007 wrote:

PeeKay wrote: Do you think Delpech is going to take the ride on Elusive Silva?

he has a lot of choices. I guess we will have to wait and the next few races

Delpech to win the July on Master Switch

Me think , Delpech on Black Arthur

As things stand, BA will have to win something just to get in :ohmy:

and will Delpech not take Al Sahem?

mr hawaii wrote: and will Delpech not take Al Sahem?

what about his commitment to his sponsor mrs slack she has two nominated