Owners Exposed

Exactly RP, most if not all this stuff has been in the public domain for 3 or so years

I’ve observed that this thread has gained significant mileage.
Once again, my response is purely based in defence of trainers across our country – once again, few understand the challenges a trainer faces daily.
For the ill-informed –
Presidential hopefuls, in every country in the world are bank rolled by business, throughout their campaign – this is not done for free or for hugs.
Corruption, fraud or collusion at any level cannot be condoned however the last time I checked, we all live in a place called earth. It is therefore critical that we offered this thread an opportunity to reflect an unbiased and introspective take on the subject.
This thread was borne out of allegations made against a prominent KZN racehorse owner – it may have been alleged that this individual unduly or illegally benefited from government tenders based on his relationship with the President of the country. (and this has allowed for him to splurge on racehorses)
There exists another school of thought in this country that this thread has thus far failed to take into consideration: (and it must be mentioned that this thought is endorsed and subscribed by the majority in this Country)
It has long been alleged that that certain people or groups of people unduly and unlawfully benefitted from the fruits and labour of this country during the apartheid regime. It has been alleged that these same people have had sufficient time to legitimize their business interests and now operate above board and all is par to the course.
If we explore the 2nd summation we can deduce that it is possible and may very well be alleged that individuals such Messrs/Mesdames Van Niekerk, Slack, Hoppenhiemer, Rupert etc.again "alleged", unduly benefited during that regime.

Taking this balanced overview into consideration can we therefore humbly request, Messrs Tarry, Snaith, De Kock, Laird, etc. thoroughly vet these owners before continuing association with them.


..........Should we all not rather invest how energies on more informative and beneficial horseracing and raceday matters

Don’t know who Federico is but he is spot on. Nobody in business questions the clients integrity. You have to show the client support. In my line of work, if anybody came to me with the money these guys throw around I wouldn’t think twice about taking them on.

good on you Federico for saying it as it is You hit the nail on the head !!!!

brilliantly said MR Federico

trainers should NOT be held responsible or shoulder any blame at all.

Dark Horse Thoroughbreds wrote: 1000 % OTA however I did not want to carry on with this discussion as I could see Louis G was getting upset and did not really understand my post.

However you are correct Gold Circle and the NHA , the RA are just as guilty .

This example about shopping at Pick and Pay is ridiculous. If the Security guard at the door and the business owner have knowledge that the man coming in to buy goods , that he is buying goods with stolen money , they have very low standards etc. ..... and should throw him out the door.

I see it differently
to me the pick and pay example perfectly makes sense, exactly my point and reasoning that the trainer is in no way to blame.

Dark Horse Thoroughbreds... with full respect to your views, if we use your reasoning of pick and pay, then... in the similar reasoning it would mean.... we know this Gov is corrupt then that would mean we should leave this country and emmigrate , cos living in this country then means we have very low stanards according to you. and are part of the corruption system.

Dear All

OK Thank You to all for showing me that my option or view on this subject was incorrect. Some have made very good points and my initial response was not the best, to which I apologize to anyone I have offended .

Have a good day .

What I find interesting about this discussion is that what has come up , is that most of the big owners in this country have benefited from either the previous apartheid regime or the current apartheid regime (bee) and people wonder why racing has such a bad name :dry:

ewn.co.za/2017/11/02/zuma-q-and-a-speake...da-s-urgent-question

Craig ,Do not believe that all big owners benefitted by because of government connections
in the past In fact not all businessmen benefitted because they were white under the Nationalist
regime
I started as a partner in an engineering business and found it almost impossible to win a state or municipal tender
The consultants appointed were all "broeders" and as an "Engelsman" I got F**ked on ever quote
Survived and grew by pure hard work service service and service
After about 8 years got a call from the senior partner of a Afrikaans consulting firm in Pretoria
asked for a meeting, said he had seen one of our completed contracts and was impressed
with quality
Still while we did many private clients work we never cracked Government jobs except in the
bush which nobody wanted
So I believe is I was also "disadvantaged"

03 November 2017 - 08:36

Times Live

Roy Moodley likes the limelight. He's the leading racehorse owner in KwaZulu-Natal and everyone knows it - because he names all his horses after himself.

There's Roy's Bugle and Roy's Trombone trumpeting the businessman's presence, and Roy's Rolls Royce announcing his wealth.

He clearly has a musical bent, what with Roy's Banjo, Roy's Piano, Roy's Flute and Roy's Bongos. And he likes angling: Roy's Marlin, Roy's Rockfish and Roy's Barbel. Gardening, perhaps? Roy's Iris, Roy's Hollyhock.

Moodley shows a sense of humour, too, with Roy's Donkey, Roy's Pony and Roy's Slow Motion. Not to mention Roy Is Second, which defied the slight and came first. Also registered with the National Horseracing Authority are Roy Is Last and Roy Is First.

In all, the NHA's name list has 101 horses beginning with Roy's.

The chap has plenty of other horses, too, some named after his company Royal Security: Royalsecuritypower, Royalsecuritystar etc.

'The President's Keepers': SARS to consider laying charges over exposé

My friend Alec Hogg did a calculation this week, postulating that if Moodley has 100 horses in training, each costing R100000 a year in upkeep, the annual bill for his hobby - adding in purchases, imports and stud-farm costs - is at least R30-million. His accumulated prize money last season might have been about R8-million.

It's the sport of kings, no business proposition.

The point is, Roy's a king. Roy's loaded. One horse is wittily called Roy's Amazing Ash.

If Moodley likes flaunting it centre stage, he's certainly in the spotlight now following bombshell allegations in the new book The President's Keepers by Jacques Pauw. It's not the sort of attention the Durban gent wants, though, as Pauw claims to have unearthed scary stuff about Moodley's relationship with President Jacob Zuma.

Pauw's sources told him Zuma was getting a R1-million a month salary from Royal Security - even after he became president. Now, it's probably all exaggerated tittle-tattle, possibly even fibs. If it were true, Big Jake would have been breaking the law.

Hey, it's likely an admin error, with someone forgetting to stop paying JZ after he'd ascended to the throne. But then, you can't help wondering what song No 1 was singing for that one-bar-a-month supper in the first place.

I'm sure all the folk involved will have a perfectly reasonable explanation. After all, Moodley hasn't made his friendship with the Prez a secret.

There's also probably nothing behind insinuations by other muck-raking hacks about massive mystery payments made from state-owned railway agency Prasa, through Siyangena Technologies, to Moodley-owned companies.

Any day now, there'll be an explanation. Remember, one horse is called Roy Had Enough.

These names! Roy's Baboon? No, we're not going there.

Much better is Royal Zulu Warrior. Inspired.

Actually, Royal Zulu Warrior has been one of Moodley's best horses, winning the Charity Mile at Turffontein a few years ago.

The Charity Mile will be contested again tomorrow. None of Roy's nags grace the meeting, but we'll make do.

Trainer Johan Janse van Vuuren's candidate New Predator (settle down at the back!) won this Grade 2, R1-million race last year and is among the favourites again. He's a talented, consistent horse, well drawn and ridden by the charging Gavin Lerena, so will be in contention. The negative is the hefty 61kg he carries.

At the other end of the weight scale is Social Order, with just 52kg to lug. And most of that weight will be young star rider Lyle Hewitson. The relatively unexposed gelding from Sean Tarry's stable had problems in his last two starts but still put up good showings.

I'm going for Social Order to beat New Predator. It just sounds right.

It's a crackerjack race meeting, signalling the Highveld summer season's in full swing. Twelve races, a bunch of big carry-over pools - notably a R3-million Pick Six - and dozens of very good thoroughbreds contesting a clutch of feature events.

Roy's missing out.

a nice column there DARKHORSE