USA next President Donald or Joe?

I don’t support Biden, I support what’s right over wrong.

CnC wrote I don’t support Biden, I support what’s right over wrong.

And you are entitled to your opinion and in your opinion Trump is wrong and Biden is right so it follows that you support him and his fellow democrats as right over Trump and his supporters who are wrong.
Is it safe to call you and Bayern the Biden duo as opposed to the Trump quintet
I still believe and no amount of persuasion will make it otherwise is that this has been the most maligned and demonized president in my memory of American politics. CNN et al are going to be very boring for the next 4 years.

Where's the Trump supporters? :-

Leftists / "liberals" see their opinions as fact and everyone else's purported facts as opinion...

If I grabbed at somebody’s mothers, wives or adult daughters bits the male of that family would kick the shit out of me and rightly so. Yet here you all are supporting a vile creature that has been doing that sort of thing for the past 50; years.

TNaicker wrote: Leftists / "liberals" see their opinions as fact and everyone else's purported facts as opinion...

How does the saying go, "we all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts", what is it that you alleging the Leftists/Liberals are dismissing as fact, in your view/opinion?

Nin hao Bayern.

To answer your question, on what I'm hoping that the SC will do. I'm hoping for them to reveal the truth. That's all.
If the SC says there is no evidence of voter fraud, that will be the end of the discussion for me.

Lionel wrote: Nin hao Bayern.

To answer your question, on what I'm hoping that the SC will do. I'm hoping for them to reveal the truth. That's all.
If the SC says there is no evidence of voter fraud, that will be the end of the discussion for me.

Ni hao ma Lionel

Doesn't appear that TN will agree with your/our view/opinion, not that he has said what it is, he disagrees with. Upfront, i agree with your view regards the Supreme Court, problem is, in order to get them to (say) overturn a State result, or change/remove the appointed electors, can we agree there should be just cause? Because "we" don't like the outcome of the election, "we" are crying foul and insist the Supreme Court makes a decision - all well and good, but based on what evidence. A sworn affidavit is not evidence of anything, the individual making the statement would have to stand before a Judge and provide/produce evidence substantiating their claim - was always under the impression that's how the Law worked

@Tnaicker wrote "I'm still here...just realised it is not worth discussing merits or otherwise of what transpired with fellow Clanners that choose to see nothing anomalous in the results as they currently stand...

I am in agreement ... time is too precious to waste on MSM brainwashed individuals. Their stance and viewpoint is .."It must be right because I heard it on MSNBC / CNN / Bloomberg et al'" ... the bodies which control the narrative control their thoughts and beliefs.

If there is another Bretton Woods type summit at Davos, as is being purported to by the likes of Prince Charles and the IMF talking heads .... can one imagine Biden and / or Kamala Harris negotiating on behalf of the DSA? China going to have them for breakfast.... that is my opinion.

Watch out folks... the Great Reset is coming to a country near you.

Stack them SATS

CnC wrote If I grabbed at somebody’s mothers, wives or adult daughters bits the male of that family would kick the shit out of me and rightly so Yet here you all are supporting a vile creature that has been doing that sort of thing for the past 50; years.

Couldn't agree more with your first paragraph and we on the same page there as any normal person would be.

As per your insistence in previous parts of this topic re election fraud the second part needs to be tested in a court of law and mere statemets don' make it so.
Please don't presume that he will be the only powerful person to be accused of this Bidens name has come up a few times also all unproven to be fair, as has a few Democratic, Republican officials well as a judges and clergy.

bayern wrote:

Lionel wrote: Nin hao Bayern.

To answer your question, on what I'm hoping that the SC will do. I'm hoping for them to reveal the truth. That's all.
If the SC says there is no evidence of voter fraud, that will be the end of the discussion for me.

Ni hao ma Lionel

Doesn't appear that TN will agree with your/our view/opinion, not that he has said what it is, he disagrees with. Upfront, i agree with your view regards the Supreme Court, problem is, in order to get them to (say) overturn a State result, or change/remove the appointed electors, can we agree there should be just cause? Because "we" don't like the outcome of the election, "we" are crying foul and insist the Supreme Court makes a decision - all well and good, but based on what evidence. A sworn affidavit is not evidence of anything, the individual making the statement would have to stand before a Judge and provide/produce evidence substantiating their claim - was always under the impression that's how the Law worked

Absolutely. I would not have it any other way. As I stated previously Bayern, I have never voted for a party/person that won the election. Losing, whilst I don't like it, can be accepted. Being cheated is another thing. From what I've seen, there are signs that something took place that needs to be addressed /investigated.

The only court that I trust in the USA for this matter, is the SC.

While Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton’s 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats’ general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He underperforms a losing candidate but wins the election...

He outperforms her in four key Republican States ....

Clearly hiding in the bunker is a stroke of genius for a political campaign {warm handclaps} ...