USA next President Donald or Joe?

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4 years 8 months ago
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Sorry to disappoint Magi, the far right networks who support Trump have not aired the Supreme Court's decision, otherwise i would have copied their link which may have been a little more believable to the Trump supporters who dis-trust liberal media, but, it is what it is. The decision was 9-0 for what it's worth .....

So be it. Is absolutely still my opinion that this was not a true reflection of who the Americans wanted as POTUS.

Just watch from 06m15 seconds or so and listen to this woman explain what went down (in Georgia... and it wasn't the devil...thanks Charlie Daniels band) with an open mind...



And then on a lighter note ....

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Magi wrote: Sorry to disappoint Magi, the far right networks who support Trump have not aired the Supreme Court's decision, otherwise i would have copied their link which may have been a little more believable to the Trump supporters who dis-trust liberal media, but, it is what it is. The decision was 9-0 for what it's worth .....

So be it. Is absolutely still my opinion that this was not a true reflection of who the Americans wanted as POTUS.

Just watch from 06m15 seconds or so and listen to this woman explain what went down (in Georgia... and it wasn't the devil...thanks Charlie Daniels band) with an open mind...



And then on a lighter note ....


The first video has been debunked a long time ago, sadly the Right supporters only got their hands on the footage fairly recently, and are pushing another conspiracy - just like the water leak theory, as to why they sent the counters home, there never was a water leak, the urinal was blocked. As i previously said, watch the networks who tell the truth, not who push a narrative.

Just like the Texan, who sued 4 other States yesterday, that will go nowhere but the Right wing media won't tell the Trump supporters. Still waiting to see the Newsmax, NTD, AON or Fox networks break the SC decision to the viewers - wouldn't be surprised if the Trump supporters turn against all of them for "spreading fake news". Not difficult seeing why 74M are this naive wasting their hard earned cash on something so worthless. Wouldn't be surprised if Trump turns around to sue the dumb arses, the crack legal team he has. Your entrant (Sidney Powell) must be happy she was kicked off the team, and looking silly on her own, no recourse against her from the lame duck. I do believe she's on crack, let alone releasing the Kraken. I think DJT should flee to China, you know how many more people are there that you can BS, the money raised right now, $202M, would pale into significance, and like chump change.
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@Magi...in the minds of the Democrats, MSM, Hollywood and the rest of the alphabet soup, there is nothing unusual to see here as this is likely the norm in districts they run...

If this is how some-one wants to claim a win, then it is on them...yes, the record book may indicate a win but to many it will have an asterisk next to it...

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TNaicker wrote: @Magi...in the minds of the Democrats, MSM, Hollywood and the rest of the alphabet soup, there is nothing unusual to see here as this is likely the norm in districts they run...

If this is how some-one wants to claim a win, then it is on them...yes, the record book may indicate a win but to many it will have an asterisk next to it...

The Republicans and their supporters are looking for "unusual" things to create some sort of defense as to why Trump will not serve a second term in office. Be bold and explain what is unusual about the footage, and how YOU come to that conclusion - just like your numbers being suspicious in an earlier post. Go to the States and show them how stupid they are in not uncovering what is blatantly obvious to you, Lionel and Magi - walking on water would be a distant second to "all y'alls" revelations trust me.
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I'm allowed an opinion based on what I see and read and you are entitled to your opinion...my opinion is that there is enough that is questionable to warrant further investigation...your view is that all is hunky-dory...so be it...

The MSM and Big Tech companies, with the resources they have at their disposal, could have investigated further but they have already backed QPPBJoe so it was best for them to suppress and misdirect and close the book...their narrative must be seen through to its conclusion...

There are many here that likely criticise the ANC's running of South Africa but support the Democrats / QPPBJoe in the US...how do you reconcile that? I cannot understand it...woe on those who can and do...

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TNaicker wrote: I'm allowed an opinion based on what I see and read and you are entitled to your opinion...my opinion is that there is enough that is questionable to warrant further investigation...your view is that all is hunky-dory...so be it...

The MSM and Big Tech companies, with the resources they have at their disposal, could have investigated further but they have already backed QPPBJoe so it was best for them to suppress and misdirect and close the book...their narrative must be seen through to its conclusion...

There are many here that likely criticise the ANC's running of South Africa but support the Democrats / QPPBJoe in the US...how do you reconcile that? I cannot understand it...woe on those who can and do...

I said yesterday, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts - i am saying the table video has been factually debunked, not by MSM, Big Tech or the Democrats , and not without Republicans being present, you just won't accept this fact, like everything else.

If proving fraud thousands of kilometers away is easy, do the same trick here to get rid of the ANC - better still, start here then go across :-

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TNaicker wrote: @Magi...in the minds of the Democrats, MSM, Hollywood and the rest of the alphabet soup, there is nothing unusual to see here as this is likely the norm in districts they run...

If this is how some-one wants to claim a win, then it is on them...yes, the record book may indicate a win but to many it will have an asterisk next to it...

The Republicans and their supporters are looking for "unusual" things to create some sort of defense as to why Trump will not serve a second term in office. Be bold and explain what is unusual about the footage, and how YOU come to that conclusion - just like your numbers being suspicious in an earlier post. Go to the States and show them how stupid they are in not uncovering what is blatantly obvious to you, Lionel and Magi - walking on water would be a distant second to "all y'alls" revelations trust me.

This was on the 05/12/2020 ALREADY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Bayern, you hit the nail on the head. Proving fraud is not that easy, especially under these circumstances. Just ask Steinhoff and MJ, to name just one. There are plenty more where that came from.

Regarding opinions, facts and Truth. Here's the thing:

Fact: OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder in the criminal case.
Fact: OJ Simpson was found legally responsible for their deaths, in the civil case.
Truth: ??

At the end of the day, it is what it is. Each person is entitled to their beliefs, and, for now, the freedom to express those beliefs.

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Lionel wrote: Bayern, you hit the nail on the head. Proving fraud is not that easy, especially under these circumstances. Just ask Steinhoff and MJ, to name just one. There are plenty more where that came from.

Regarding opinions, facts and Truth. Here's the thing:

Fact: OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder in the criminal case.
Fact: OJ Simpson was found legally responsible for their deaths, in the civil case.
Truth: ??

At the end of the day, it is what it is. Each person is entitled to their beliefs, and, for now, the freedom to express those beliefs.

Lionel, has MJ been tried and found innocent already?

Where you are not being consistent in your logic, in both the criminal and civil cases against OJ Simpson, he was acquitted. Our personal opinions of whether he is guilty or not sadly doesn't matter.

In the case of DJT, he and or his legal team haven't proven any voter fraud in a court of law, however you are prepared to agree with him, that there was, because he says it is so. Trump's allegations of fraud have been dismissed not by Democrats, but by every court, including the SC.

How many people do you know of that were jailed because of the 9/11 conspiracies - that defied the laws of physics, (the collapsing of the buildings) from jet fuel alone.

Some opinions are just outrageous, and don't warrant a second thought, and i don't believe the earth is flat, who do we blame, liberal media, Big Tech, MSM or the Dems?
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bayern wrote:
Lionel wrote: Bayern, you hit the nail on the head. Proving fraud is not that easy, especially under these circumstances. Just ask Steinhoff and MJ, to name just one. There are plenty more where that came from.

Regarding opinions, facts and Truth. Here's the thing:

Fact: OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder in the criminal case.
Fact: OJ Simpson was found legally responsible for their deaths, in the civil case.
Truth: ??

At the end of the day, it is what it is. Each person is entitled to their beliefs, and, for now, the freedom to express those beliefs.

Lionel, has MJ been tried and found innocent already?
Thats just the point. How many years have passed? It sometimes take time to build the case.

Where you are not being consistent in your logic, in both the criminal and civil cases against OJ Simpson, he was acquitted. Our personal opinions of whether he is guilty or not sadly doesn't matter.
Incorrect Bayern. He was found innocent in the criminal case, but guilty in the civil case. Our opinions might not change the outcome, but it does matter. Ask every sport fan, when the referee and VAR makes wrong decisions.

In the case of DJT, he and or his legal team haven't proven any voter fraud in a court of law, however you are prepared to agree with him, that there was, because he says it is so. Trump's allegations of fraud have been dismissed not by Democrats, but by every court, including the SC.
Lol. No, I don't think that there is voter fraud just because Trump says there is. Look at all my posts on this site alone, over the years. I don't just swim with the tide. I have a mind of my own. In fact, truth be told, it takes a brave person in today's political climate, to say that they support DJT.
How many people do you know of that were jailed because of the 9/11 conspiracies - that defied the laws of physics, (the collapsing of the buildings) from jet fuel alone.

Some opinions are just outrageous, and don't warrant a second thought, and i don't believe the earth is flat, who do we blame, liberal media, Big Tech, MSM or the Dems?

Sorry, but you lost me here.

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Commander in Chief of the US Army refers to his soldiers as.....".troupe ".:P

Jacob gave us a few chuckles but then again he can be forgiven as the only " education " he had was on Robben Island.

Trump will be missed …………….at the Comedy Club nights.

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Beijing Manipulated Wall Street to Steer US Policy, Until Trump Became President: Chinese Professor

The Chinese communist regime exerted influence over the United States for decades through its “old friends” in Wall Street, but this scheme was disrupted by President Donald Trump’s election in 2016, a Chinese professor recently revealed at a seminar.

Over the past 30 to 40 years, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) “took advantage of the core power circle in the United States,” said Di Dongsheng, associate dean of the School of International Studies at the Renmin University of China in Beijing, in a speech given at an event in Shanghai, live-streamed on Chinese online video-sharing platform Guan Video on Nov. 28. The clip has since gone viral, and the original video has been deleted.

Di was referring to Wall Street, a sector that started exerting “a very strong influence on U.S. domestic and foreign affairs in the 1970s.”

“So we figured out our path and those we could depend on,” he said.

But from 2008, Wall Street’s influence declined as the financial crisis hit, Di said.

“More importantly, starting in 2016, Wall Street had no influence on Trump,” he said, citing disputes the former businessman had with Wall Street financiers.

However, with a potential Joe Biden administration, Beijing may once again rely on its powerful U.S. backers, the professor said.

“The traditional elites, political elites, and the establishment have a very close relationship with Wall Street,” Di said.

He then referred to allegations that Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, has extensive ties with the Chinese regime and other foreign governments through investments and business dealings.

In October, Tony Bobulinski, Hunter’s former business partner, revealed that the younger Biden in early 2017 asked him to execute a deal with the now-bankrupt Chinese energy conglomerate CEFC China Energy Company.

Bobulinski served as CEO of SinoHawk LLC, a business entity created to formalize the Biden–CEFC investment partnership with the Chinese company. SinoHawk was supposed to have been initially funded with $10 million, which would then grow into billions in investment funds, Bobulinski said at the time. Then-chairman of CEFC Ye Jianming had deep ties with high-level CCP officials.

Di said: “Who helped him [Hunter] build the funds? You understand? There are transactions involved.”

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In 2016, then-candidate Trump campaigned on a tough-on-China platform, focusing on the regime’s unfair trade practices that have cost thousands of American manufacturing jobs. As president, Trump in 2018 launched a trade war, slapping billions worth of tariffs on a range of Chinese imports.

In reference to the trade war, Di asked, “So why are we having trouble with Trump, when we were able to handle all kinds of problems between China and the United States from 1992 to 2016?”

He said that previously, “all crises” between China and the United States, such as the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999, were able to be resolved “within two months.”

The reason for this is that Beijing had “people in high places [in the United States],” Di said.

Wall Street had tried to help the Chinese regime during the U.S.–China trade war, Di added.

“As far as I know, friends from the U.S. told me that they tried to help, but they were too weak,” he said.

Prior to Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s visit to the United States in 2015, all levels of the CCP had to help “warm up” and “build momentum” for the high-profile event, he said. One such warmup was to create positive public opinion about the Chinese regime. A book release event was organized for the publication of the first English-language edition of “Xi Jinping on State Administration”—a book containing Xi’s speeches on political ideology.

Di said he was assigned to find a venue for the event.

The location was set at a popular independent bookstore on Connecticut Avenue in Washington, D.C.

However, due to the short notice, the bookstore was unable to arrange the time slot. Di claimed the bookstore’s manager was a former reporter based in Asia and he was unwilling to accommodate Di’s request due to his “biases” toward the CCP.

But eventually, Di said, Chinese officials managed to hold the press conference at the bookstore because the store owner was pressured by an elderly Jewish woman who had some clout on Wall Street.

The woman was the chairman of the Asia division of a top financial institution on Wall Street, according to Di. She had Chinese citizenship and a Beijing-registered permanent residence.

A Chinese state media report praised the event afterward: “On Sep. 17, 2015, the bookstore hosted Chinese Ambassador to the United States, Cui Tiankai, and a senior Chinese government official for a discussion about Xi’s book on governing China.”

Following the trade war, many American industrial sectors began to shy away from Chinese investments, but Wall Street has deepened its business ties after Beijing’s moves to open up the financial sector.

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro, in an October Interview with The Epoch Times, described Wall Street as “writ large a sociopath,” in response to a question about Wall Street’s continued ramp-up of investments in China.

“They have no morals or patriotism. It’s all about the money,” Navarro said.

Meanwhile, global stock index providers have come under increasing scrutiny over their inclusion of Chinese stocks—with some Chinese firms being tied to the regime’s military or having aided its human rights abuses. Because many investment and pension funds track these indices, it means that Americans are unwittingly financing the CCP’s malign ambitions, U.S. officials have warned.

In November, Trump issued an executive order barring U.S. investments in Chinese companies deemed by the Pentagon to be “owned or controlled by” the Chinese military, to block the flow of American capital to fund the CCP’s military goals. The ban is to take effect in early January 2021. U.S. investors have until November 2021 to divest their securities.

In response, index provider FTSE Russell announced on Dec. 4 that it would drop shares of eight Chinese companies that were on the Pentagon list. These companies’ shares will be removed from its FTSE Global Equity Index Series and several others effective Dec. 21.

During the 2020 presidential election cycle, Wall Street contributed more than $70 million to Democratic Party candidate Joe Biden’s political campaign, much more than Trump received from hedge funds and investment banks, according to CNBC. That’s also more than former President Barack Obama collected from Wall Street in his two presidential runs combined.

Since Democrats raised a substantial amount of money from the sector, “that means to me they’re making deals,” Trump told reporters on Nov. 3 at his campaign headquarters in Virginia.

“What I didn’t do is call up Wall Street and say, send me $25 million … to the head of every firm. I could have done that. I would have been the all-time king of fundraising if I did that. But once you do that, you can no longer deal properly with them. You just can’t,” he said.
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