Gloves Are Off - Jockeys Versus Operators

You are absolutely correct in fact WSB has put in excess of 100 million (without the 54 million pledge to 4Racing) over the past 10 years and continues to support charitable organizations in and outside of Racing,thet are the true heroes.

WSB contributing my arse.....

Look for all the contributors that have the open bet as a product. Its super Super easy to contribute when its not your money.

As for WSB they are the ones with the most rule changes with the G Board. Everytime a punter wins loads they apply for a new rule change.

A friend of mine was lost to racing after they refused to pay him R1.4 m in Pick 6 wins on a day with a pool of R5m and after he had done over R10m to them in 3 years.

BAD for racing.

WSB's contribution to horse racing stands head and shoulders above that of the operators, including HWB who has significant influence on GC (over the past few years) and CR recently.

WSB has no seat nor a voice at the table and is a sponsor that has thrown many life lines to the operators. It would not be irrational to conclude that WSB's contribution to horse racing keeps their turnovers and profitability ticking over...............WSB's contribution to horse racing is unlikely to be part of their CSI budget although 4Q does qualify as a charity case.

easy wrote:

WSB contributing my arse.....

Look for all the contributors that have the open bet as a product. Its super Super easy to contribute when its not your money.

As for WSB they are the ones with the most rule changes with the G Board. Everytime a punter wins loads they apply for a new rule change.

A friend of mine was lost to racing after they refused to pay him R1.4 m in Pick 6 wins on a day with a pool of R5m and after he had done over R10m to them in 3 years.

BAD for racing.

First it was a friend who was refused a payout by Hollywood in January and now another friend who was refused a payout by WSB. Seems you have an inordinate amount of unlucky friends.

Be that as it may, besides the deeply sunken SABoat debacle, feel free to share your own portfolio of industry contributors Joao. Not sure if Betfair counted the last time I checked.

“Look for all the contributors that have the open bet as a product. Its super Super easy to contribute when its not your money”

Easy, you are Super super confused. The offering of the open bet as a product is 💯% legal and a great product offering to the SA Punting public who has to put up with operators that have no clue how to address their failing businesses in relation to growing their tote pools, protecting their turf and looking after their customer base.

We as punters can bet across bookmaking platforms to take the open bet, race in race out, without feeling too aggrieved about the pathetic tote pools. So, what’s the problem here?

If only the owners, trainers and half-wit punters that complain about the open bet publicly but take take their fixed odds with bookmakers stop being hypocrites, the tote pools will return to that of the glory days.

So, why are you, your fellow owners, trainers, punters and other friends not placing your win and place bets on Saftote but with bookmakers?

Saftote’s offering is piss-poor and that is why majority of owners, trainers and punters wager their bets with bookmakers.

100% Ash

Sending money from SA punters to overseas bookies is 1 million percent worse than the Open Bet

easy wrote:

As for WSB they are the ones with the most rule changes with the G Board. Everytime a punter wins loads they apply for a new rule change.

A friend of mine was lost to racing after they refused to pay him R1.4 m in Pick 6 wins on a day with a pool of R5m and after he had done over R10m to them in 3 years.

BAD for racing.

somebody keeps removing my post???

THANK YOU, Easy

thought the topic was how arrogant the jockeys are

I am a nett contributor to SA racing. Our purchases and monthly bills are evidence of that. Whether you like that or not its a fact.

As for Saboat yes it sunk, it sunk with me having received over 170 signatures mandating a change. It was just not enough.

Perhaps people should consider that every thing predicted by myself and others on other forums like free racer and others by industry giants like Steve Reid and Brett Masselle have all come true.

Keep attacking me and your eye off the bigger picture.

100% saftote is piss poor.

and the fact that they lost their intellectual property in court is mind boggling.

However not only is their product bad their leadership even worse.

The open bet can be renegotiated in under 1 week and with a positive outcome for racing.

BUT the timeframe for this is running out.

fingers wrote:

easy wrote:

As for WSB they are the ones with the most rule changes with the G Board. Everytime a punter wins loads they apply for a new rule change.

A friend of mine was lost to racing after they refused to pay him R1.4 m in Pick 6 wins on a day with a pool of R5m and after he had done over R10m to them in 3 years.

BAD for racing.

somebody keeps removing my post???

THANK YOU, Easy

You both do understand that the process of ' applying for a rule change ' takes months don't you ?

I won't bore you with the details because it wouldn't fit your delusional narratives, but the process goes through several steps before even being considered by the relevant Gambling Boards.

The internet is a wealth of information, so do some of your own research - you might learn some stuff.

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You both do understand that the process of ' applying for a rule change ' takes months don't you ?

I won't bore you with the details because it wouldn't fit your delusional narratives, but the process goes through several steps before even being considered by the relevant Gambling Boards. .[/quote]

Yawn, yawn – go take your tablets and keep taking them for your ‘i know it all’ personality

wsb changes a rule overnight and the gauteng gambling board underwrites it within a week

Almost 7 years ago they decided not to pay out on the draw in a test cricket match – they claimed it was a tie– when I queried this I was told I should have read their rules and again quoted the tie rule in cricket (in the history of test cricket I think there were ever only 2 ties)

To the gambling board I go and low and behold, they ratified this new approach to test cricket rules by this bookie.

When I posted this on this website (not mentioning the bookies name) , one member immediately said this could only have been wsb!