God’s gift to racing

Jaypeg….I don’t have to speculate…I’ve seen the proof of them in business class seats and so has Bob. We don’t need to show it to people like you that thrive on changing your side in mid game.
As for the senior person what does he have in the closet…
Again…I’ve never posted anything that I wasn’t sure was the truth…

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Mark Sham wrote:

Jaypeg….I don’t have to speculate…I’ve seen the proof of them in business class seats and so has Bob. We don’t need to show it to people like you that thrive on changing your side in mid game.
As for the senior person what does he have in the closet…
Again…I’ve never posted anything that I wasn’t sure was the truth…

Interesting how you have deftly moved the goal posts to suit your narrative. You started your narrative with a Stipe in business class to Durban as reported by a senior person. Now you seemingly cover a group called "them" and not the individual you originally accused, and it seems every prior business class trip by an NHA official as part of that narrative.

Deal with the issue you started with and provide the proof for this specific incident from an objective source or from actual source documents. It has been pointed out to you that sitting in a business class seat proves nothing at all but you continue with that as prima facie proof of an indiscretion.

You do not know me personally and you have no idea what I may have changed mid game. You are simply, as with your senior person, taking someone else's interpretation of thoughts in prior conversations with them. The Stipes get no credit from me for indiscretions in executing their jobs on the racecourse and I have made that obvious throughout. This post however has nothing to do with stiping. Bums in seats on an aircraft are not a concern for me as I do not work off unproven allegations by other people who have an agenda.

Once again, show the proof of the indiscretion and stop attempting to add other components into the argument in order to move the burden of proof onto someone else.

Jaypeg…..your great command of the English language, which it seems you like to show here , should allow you to see that by “them” I mean the NHA officials sitting in Business class as from the first post.

I’d like to put the shoe onto your foot and you show me where the mentioned officials weren’t sitting in BC……

Hey Jaypeg have you disappeared until August?

Just a last post here

Wisemen talk because they have something to say
Fools because they have to say something

This may come across as a BEE type of question (or the slow student in the class).

Who is Gods gift to racing?

Is it Jaypeg19 or the NHA official(s)?

Asking for a friend.

I have no prove an i'm not able to proof (clearly my engrish not as polished as Jaypeg19)

but senior unofficials in the industry tell me that Jaypeg19 is Karel's "minnie me"

Ash2Ash wrote:

This may come across as a BEE type of question (or the slow student in the class).

Who is Gods gift to racing?

Is it Jaypeg19 or the NHA official(s)?

Asking for a friend.

God's gift to racing has to be, repeat has to be a power generator which will work for minimum 4 minutes which will make the jockeys agree to race under the lights without depending on ESKOM as the show must go on. Don't have to elaborate on the disappointment the country's biggest racing event coming to a abrupt halt caused. God, are you listening?.

From Rabbie Burns

“O wad some Power the giftie gie us, to see oursels as ithers see us!”

From another of his most celebrated and comical poems, Tae a Louse, this quote roughly translates to mean it would be a wonderful gift from God if we were able to see ourselves as we are seen by others. Burns goes on to say that this ability would prevent us from making silly or embarrassing mistakes. Perhaps if some government ministers and officials had this power today, they would not be so confident in their convictions.

Hi guys, let's try and keep it to banter and debate and not get personal

Jaypeg19, where are you now? No questions for your NHA stipes " Bunch of Palookas " re the Peter wrong horse saga . Blatant lying to stipes and blaming the transporter. Is that not bringing racing into disrepute? Has there been another inquiry by stipes unto this or do they just take the trainers word over that of the transporter.

Joe Mc Dokes wrote:

Jaypeg19, where are you now? No questions for your NHA stipes " Bunch of Palookas " re the Peter wrong horse saga . Blatant lying to stipes and blaming the transporter. Is that not bringing racing into disrepute? Has there been another inquiry by stipes unto this or do they just take the trainers word over that of the transporter.

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It's a credit to the current NHA that the identifier was wide awake and picked up the discrepancy.

Will you do the research and let us know about a horse from Uncle Joe Joseph in KZN that was transferred to a trainer in the Vaal, I think it was a Van Baalen.

Who questioned the Jockey Club of SA and what questions were put to it.......

As to how the trainer painted the horse and won a race at the Vaal, with buckets of money coming for the horse just before the off.
And how the All Clear was given and people got their winnings.

In the era of the NP and Jockey Club of SA rule.

When things were supposedly controlled strictly.

Answers?

This Saga is not the same as Joseph trying blatantly to make a Coup .The wrong horse was brought to the course not on purpose but a mix up in the yard .Peter mislead the board by saying transporter got them muddled .This is bringing racing into disrepute by misleading the board