Breeder of the Year

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Simple KM - if its in KZN it must be sh1t

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Karel

Not at all..why is it strange?

Im just interested as I said I was looking up the stats page in the Sporting Post and noticed how far Summerhill the breeders of the year are ahead of the rest. They must then either own many more mares than the rest and/or own mares with a much higher quality than the rest. What I do know is that I have friends who own mares at some farms as I own one and I must say Ive never had to sign special mare ownership papers with the NHA which might or might not be recquired. That I will check on Monday.

Thank you for helping me with my question..nowadays one gets worried about asking or making any comments on these forum sites as there always seems to be another who views simple questions as being sinister.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Oscar,
If you own mares you have to pay annual fees to NHA for mare ownership registration.
If you haven't chances are the mare isn't in your name?
You'd better find out.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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I will and thanks..

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Karel Miedema Wrote:
> For whingers like Jack, here's some numerical
> perspective on Summerhill.
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Summerhill may 'only' produce 3% of the foal population, but they still have more runners than any other 2 farms added together.

Still, their earnings are more than any two competitor combined, that's good.

Mind you, their principal earner (Pierre Jourdan) has earned 4x ! more than the next highest earner.

Mind you again, didn't he win 750K of the 855K from Summerhills own restricted race? In fact, any horse that won would have been the biggest earner, and simultaneously bred at Summerhill.

In fact, in that race, weren't 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th all from Summerhill.

Yes, I'm right. Summerhill managed to add 750+300+200+80+45+30+28+25+22+20 (1.5 million I think) to their own total, with earnings from a race that only they could comepete for. No matter who beat what, Summerhill added R1.5 million to the log before the race was run.

So then (and I'm sorry if it's whinging) when you add all the stakes they won fair and square, deduct the stakes that only Summerhill breds could earn, then the glitter fades somewhat and the whopping 29K per runner is a far more sedate 21K per runner.

Still, you have to admit no rule has been broken and nobody's whinging or disputing Summerhills dominance. And besides, I'm sure other people used to add farms together to have a shot at the championship. :)

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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That is not exactly a race for Summerhill horses, if I may be pedantic. Anyone is free to sell horses on the Ready to Run sale. And if Summerhill were big enough to fill a race all by itself, good for them.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Jack..thinking back now, when Wally Brits was interviewed for winning the big sand race and he clearly said that the horse that won was a deal between him and Summerhill and that they were not actually the breeders although they were listed as such.

Question is for title purposes were they credited for that win?

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Oscar, yes, if the horse is officially bred by Summerhill. What goes on behind the scenes makes no difference. Heck, even I have bred horses under the name of the farm where the mare stood and I owned her 100%. Saved me from paying a hefty fee every year, I freely admit.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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I tend to agree with your thinking, but there is no other way than to give the credit to the registered breeder.

If horses are bred in partnership and all the partners want credit, then best you decide upfront. If that horse had been registered as Brits and Summerhill, then it would help neither Brits nor Summerhill.

It makes sense to register as Summerhill and let the horse count. The horse was born and raised there anyway, so to separate it would just be technical and ultimately it is a Summerhill bred.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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It's interesting to see that Mauritzfontein have 40 runners and BD Oppenheimer has 17 (9th & 10th respectively)

If they had all been registered as one or the other, they would be outright 2nd on the log, and with 45k aepr would make them/her breeder of the year for me at this point.

Or to contradict myself, given the absence of access to crackerjack stallions, D.Cohen & Sons is probably the breeding feat for this season. And it's no fluke because the current log is an echo of last season.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Jack,

Pity you don't have the numbers at hand.

It was rather obvious you'd clutch onto the Ready to Run race.
But your thinking is fuzzed.
There was some powder left dry:
Take away the 1.5 million from the Ready to Run race and Summerhill is still 2.5 million ahead of number two (whose total earnings add up to less than 2 million).
And that's just for the first three months of the season.

Oh and by the way, Summerhill doesn't use Jet master, Fort Wood, Western Winter, Captain Al or Silvano - you know, those leading sires used by the 'real' breeders.

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Re: Re: Breeder of the Year

15 years 9 months ago
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Jack,

if Mauritzfontein and BDO were added, they'd come to 2.5 million, less than half of Summerhill's 6 million.

And why bring AEPR into this? It's stakes that count.
I was the leading breeder once, on AEPR.
AEPR is a joke, although your take on it isn't funny.

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