MR of Variety Club and Jackson

All the best to the Flyer sorry to hear about the set back

It's not a set back.

In that case, just all the best to the Flyer

All the best to Ebony Flyer!

pirates Wrote:

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> justinv you say excuses cant help with ratings but
> in a prior post you make an excuse for welwitchita
> by saying she had to travel from gauteng to the
> cape...contradiction


i was saying why she couldnt be used as a line horse..not that she should be higher but isnt because she travelled..no contradiction...barry irwin..i was a trainer before i went into handicapping..so therefore i am aware of the horsemanship aspect..how can handicappers rate horses on how their trackwork has gone?? ok well then use welwitschia as the line horse people..that means frequent flyer,barcelona winter and fragrant al are all 106+....that looks right doesnt it..

Justin, ANY horse can run one big number. It happens. But it does seem strange that a horse that has run as many winning races seems stuck on one number while the others always seems to go in the opposite direction.

Barry Irwin Wrote:

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> Justin, ANY horse can run one big number. It
> happens. But it does seem strange that a horse
> that has run as many winning races seems stuck on
> one number while the others always seems to go in
> the opposite direction.


Barry, would you mind answering my question?

i have no idea why you are wanting EF at a higher rating? If you know she is better than her rating, you are ahead of the handicapper and in a very good position if you ask me to bag a few more big races?"

peekay what handicaps up to a mile will ef compete in?she will be aimed at set weight races clairwood gold challenge tibouchina stakes garden province stakes etc ...

Just asking, but any plans to take EF to the US?

No plans to take EF anywhere except Durban.

I look forward to seeing the brilliant fillies we have here in SA race against each other in Durban....Princess Victoria vs Ebony Flyer should be a great contest; Beach Beauty should bounce back - so should Happy Archer and Covenant...

pirates Wrote:

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> peekay what handicaps up to a mile will ef compete
> in?she will be aimed at set weight races clairwood
> gold challenge tibouchina stakes garden province
> stakes etc ...


All i'm saying is that if she runs at set weights against fillies rated a little higher than her, then they can be rather confident, instead of thinking she has no chance against the higher rated fillies