Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> In America, we want to know way more than is now
> provided by Formgrids.
>
> And we want a hard speed figure that relates to
> performance. Formgrids lacks this.
>
> Timeform has been around for decades and has been
> copied to death. But it survives and thrives
> because it gives a punter something to sink his
> teeth into. It gives speed figures and analysis.
>
> This product would be DOA (dead on arrival) in
> America.
>
Done a bit of googeling and found this....
Beyer Speed Figures are a fantastic handicapping tool but even Andrew Beyer himself would tell you that you cannot rely on speed figures alone. They are one of many valuable tools that you should use to handicap a race. Automatically giving the edge to a horse that earned a 95 rating in his last race over the horse that earned an 85 could be a huge mistake if the horse that earned the 85 had a horrible trip, bad ride, and broke slow.
www.horsehats.com/Beyer-Speed-Figures.html
Barry Irwin Wrote:
> David needs to flesh out his product if it is to
> become a viable handicapping tool for
> horseplayers.
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Louis Goosen (Trainer)
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Australian Racing Expert
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Andrew Bonn
(Horseracing TV Presenter)
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'You can quote me'."
Stan Elley
(Cape Town Race Horse Trainer and TV Presenter)
"Fast, brilliantly conceived, unique and a must for form studiers. Regularly upgraded with new add-ons and features, this site deserves a technical award."
Leon Setaro
Freeracer.co.za
"Dear David, I would like to congratulate you on your Formgrids. As a Racing Analyst I see the immense value in your web site and would heartily recommend it to my clients. In fact I use them daily and this week I managed to tip the pick-six which paid over R56,000 as a results of information I gleaned from the grids. Thank you and I wish you all the best as you develop it further."
John Sweet
www.profit.co.za
"Formgrids takes handicapping one step further..."
Vee Moodley
Racing Control Manager
South African Jockey Club
these guys dont agree with you Barry and nor do I
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