2012 Vodacom Durban July

gordo your point is very valid considering that Jackson is the talking horse for the big race and not just a hopeful so I can imagine that Teetan will be feeling the pressure,he is a very good rider and may well be able to pull it off but is on a hiding to nothing as if he gets beaten the blame will no doubt fall squarely on his shoulders....

Saksy Wrote:

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> Jackson had another 5 lengths on Vettel in the
> tank.
>
> I'm loving all this talk about these lurkers and
> lively contenders. If only the price will drift!

Saksy point taken which is why i am going for Jackson but surely you cant believe that a trainer like MDK would not have left something to work with in Vettel that was also not his "peak run"..if I was offered a choice to have 2/1 Jackson to win or 52/1 Vettel to place I know where my money would be...

That's exactly where my place money is lying....TITCH><

If you guys fancy Vettel what about Royal Bencher?
Do think RB are better than Vettel

I think Marcus would want to ride Gold Onyx if he had a choice

Prior to the Daily News Jackson had 1 run after a 3 month break. Vettel had 4 runs within the space of 7 weeks.

On that basis who is the likely improver?

Obviously those who took a punt at 330-1 each way is sitting happy but lets remember Vettel was at a big price when he was running in a few mickey mouse handicaps and his place in the July was unlikely at best at that stage.

The current place bet on Vettel is more like 3-1. Personally I would rather have Jackson at 2-1 to win than 3-1 on Vettel for a place.

Vettel can start now

Saksy Wrote:

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> Jackson had another 5 lengths on Vettel in the
> tank.
>
> I'm loving all this talk about these lurkers and
> lively contenders. If only the price will drift!

Let me put the cat amongst the pigeons - if Jackson is not within 6 to 8 lengths of the leading horse turning into the straight, he won't win the July! Reason i say this, in the Derby, with the Kenilworth long straight, he took an eternity to overhaul Variety Club, likewise in the Daily News, he only caught and passed Vettel in the last 220m or so. Admittedly once he caught both horses, he won going away, however in the July, i have this sneeky feeling someone is going to try and steal the race whilst Jackson tries to navigate his way through the traffic for that clear run, by then, it may be in vain.

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> no he wont qualify,he runs in a Graduation Plate
> and that wont help his faith for the july...if he
> was in the derby and won that maybe then

If i not mistaken his MR can be upped to 6 points for winning a GRADATION PLATE

ON THE CURRENT LOG WHITE LINE FEVER WILL GO UP TO 109 OR AM I WRONG? AS PER SPORTING POST

TOP 20
NO HORSE
AGE

MR

TRAINER
1

JACKSON
(3C)

116

Brett Crawford
2

BEACH BEAUTY
(4F)

110

Dennis Drier
3

TALES OF BRAVERY
(5G)

113

Vaughan Marshall
4

PIERRE JOURDAN
(5G)

114

Gary Alexander
5

POMODORO
(3C)

108

Sean Tarry
6

ROYAL BENCHER
(3G)

108

Alec Laird
7

BRAVURA
(5G)

113

Joey Ramsden
8

ENGLISH GARDEN
(4G)

107

Mike Bass
9

CHESALON
(4G)

110

Mike Bass
10

TOP SELLER
(4C)

107

Vaughan Marshall
11

ILHA BELA
(3F)

104

Mike de Kock
12

THUNDER DANCE
(3F)

102

Brett Crawford
13

POLAR BOUND
(4G)

108

Brett Crawford
14

SILVER FLYER
(3C)

108

Mike de Kock
15

SEAL
(4G)

110

Gavin van Zyl
16

SMANJEMANJE
(5G)

108

Tyrone Zackey
17

BULSARA
(5G)

106

Gavin van Zyl
18

SOLO TRAVELLER
(4G)

106

Mike de Kock
19

TRIBAL DANCE
(3C)

105

Vaughan Marshall
20

VETTEL (ARG)
(3C)

105

Mike de Kock
NEXT 10 IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER
ASTRO NEWS
(3G)

104

Greg Ennion
CASTLETHORPE (AUS)
(4G)

109

Mike Bass
FLIRTATION
(5M)

103

Mike de Kock
GOLD ONYX (NZ)
(4G)

101

Sean Tarry
GOLDEN CHATEAU (AUS)
(3C)

102

Mike de Kock
GORONGOSA (IRE)
(5M)

101

Mike de Kock
ILSANPIETRO (BRZ)
(5G)

109

Mike de Kock
MASTER PLAN
(3G)

99

Greg Ennion
SAGE THRONE
(4G)

105

Colin Scott
WHITELINE FEVER
(3G)

103

Sean Tarry

Jackson should cruse it, with Karis aboard, he has
Done it on more than one occasion, to prove that he can handle
Pressure and ride a top horse, and other favorites
On more than one occasion.

bayern Wrote:

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> Saksy Wrote:
>

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>

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> > Jackson had another 5 lengths on Vettel in the
> > tank.
> >
> > I'm loving all this talk about these lurkers
> and
> > lively contenders. If only the price will
> drift!
>
> Let me put the cat amongst the pigeons - if
> Jackson is not within 6 to 8 lengths of the
> leading horse turning into the straight, he won't
> win the July! Reason i say this, in the Derby,
> with the Kenilworth long straight, he took an
> eternity to overhaul Variety Club, likewise in the
> Daily News, he only caught and passed Vettel in
> the last 220m or so. Admittedly once he caught
> both horses, he won going away, however in the
> July, i have this sneeky feeling someone is going
> to try and steal the race whilst Jackson tries to
> navigate his way through the traffic for that
> clear run, by then, it may be in vain.

vettel is only one of 4 horses that can beat jackson if he get a dream run like always......i spend about 50hours+ watching every race,study every formline of the july....tribal dance ,vettel,viva maria and ilha bela
if he doesnt get that dream run,and the chances are very very good because if he draw inside he will be boxed by al they frontrunners and wont have enough time to get into gear or will be too far back because he takes time to kick....and if drawn wide he will have to run wide and i dont think he is as good as dynasty(that done it) with 57kg on his back

no mention of BEACH BEAUTY by anyone ......... how do u rate her chances ?