2012 Vodacom Durban July

BRAVURA WILL BE SCRATED BEFORE THE WEIGHTS ARE OUT

Mister Deon Erasmus, I told you already who is going to win this year. Dont forget Horses like Bush Telegraph, Royal Chalice, Right Perogetive, Trademark, Clasic Flag, Greys Inn and BOLD SILVANO. Anyway let us focus first on Sat Race 5. I think Silver Flyer as you said, then , English Garden and Astro News for 3rd. Race 7, What a Winter will going 1 better than PJ and 3rd the F Variety Club.

Cheers for now.

pj will accept..jackson will carry 57..effectively running off a net 108....with a half decent draw it will be no race

davebu Wrote:

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> Trying Bravura again. Almost made a bit on the Met
> and Bravura didn't take to Joburg
> Also sentimental place bet on PJ after all the
> drama with selling and buying him back


dave Bravura wont run bud...
MDK is world class but if Ilha Bella wins the July I will turn up racing, she will be hard pressed to finish in the 1st 4....prior to winning a VERY weak Oaks field she won a Maiden a Novice and a F and M MR 82 beating Gibson Girl, Kalami and Phi...her Oaks win has seen 7 of the runners she beat come out for 1 5th 1 3rd and 5 unplaced runs...the fact that she is 2nd favorite is an absolute joke

Deon Erasmus Wrote:

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> Hi Tero, that oom might be right. I have dreamt 4
> july winners in the pas and by unfolding the
> dreams they were spot on. the first was EL picha
> 2years in a row, then Eye of the tiger and the
> best one was Big city live!
>
> Maybe just dreams or maybe something els? I dont
> know but maybe there are some kind of link?


Deon when you dream of the winner, please post. (tu)

Titch Wrote:

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> davebu Wrote:
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> > Trying Bravura again. Almost made a bit on the
> Met
> > and Bravura didn't take to Joburg
> > Also sentimental place bet on PJ after all the
> > drama with selling and buying him back
>
>
> dave Bravura wont run bud...
> MDK is world class but if Ilha Bella wins the July
> I will turn up racing, she will be hard pressed to
> finish in the 1st 4....prior to winning a VERY
> weak Oaks field she won a Maiden a Novice and a F
> and M MR 82 beating Gibson Girl, Kalami and
> Phi...her Oaks win has seen 7 of the runners she
> beat come out for 1 5th 1 3rd and 5 unplaced
> runs...the fact that she is 2nd favorite is an
> absolute joke


Titch, you will be missed. Remember Eye Of The Tiger also beat nothing prior to winning the July.

S the last 3 yo Filly to win the July was Ipi Tombi and I can assure you IB is nowhere near that class..trust me you are going to have to tolerate me long after the July...she will not place! Apart from the fact that she is trained by MDK what credentials does she have that makes her a runner in the July?? the way I see it it can only be a "gut" feeling

How Ilha Bela can be second favorite for the July is beyond me.......For all the reasons Titch mentioned above, plus the fact that she is a tiny little thing who will be knocked around like a pinball. For me she can start running now and will still battle to finish in the top 5.

The reason the horse is that short is because of MDK, nothing else. (His comments that is)

Jackson should be very hard to oppose. The only one in my book who can is PJ.

(Oh and perhaps Bulsara, but I think his winning turn will come this weekend )

Titch Wrote:

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> S the last 3 yo Filly to win the July was Ipi
> Tombi and I can assure you IB is nowhere near that
> class..trust me you are going to have to tolerate
> me long after the July...she will not place! Apart
> from the fact that she is trained by MDK what
> credentials does she have that makes her a runner
> in the July?? the way I see it it can only be a
> "gut" feeling


I thought Igugu was the last 3yr old filly to win the July

Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:

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> How Ilha Bela can be second favorite for the July
> is beyond me.......For all the reasons Titch
> mentioned above, plus the fact that she is a tiny
> little thing who will be knocked around like a
> pinball. For me she can start running now and will
> still battle to finish in the top 5.
>
> The reason the horse is that short is because of
> MDK, nothing else. (His comments that is)
>
> Jackson should be very hard to oppose. The only
> one in my book who can is PJ.
>
> (Oh and perhaps Bulsara, but I think his winning
> turn will come this weekend )

Teal was a tiny horse, don't recall him being bumped around on his way to winning the July

All i'm saying is that this years July field is a weak July field. Apart from Jackson, the 3 yr old colts are not as good as previous years. The off form PJ and English Garden are the best of the older horses. Of the fillies, Ilha Bela is by miles the horse with the most potential. She still has improvment to come. I', also disappointed she is 2nd fav as i would like to back her at double figures

Correct and you feel that IB is in her class??? You are free to back whatever you choose but can you share your reason for backing her??

You are not seriously comparing a 5 year old (I speak under correction) male with a tiny 3 year old filly are you? And if I remember correctly Teal came to the very outside, where he raced for most of the race, right at the back.......

I don't want to discourage you from backing who you like, I'm VERY rarely right in the July anyway, but I can certainly not have her at her current odds, in fact I would lay you some 10/1 if it weren't illegal