2012 Vodacom Durban July

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> > > ila bela not in the race
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> agra my whole punting philosophy is based around
> VALUE and i have backed the following ...silver
> flyer ew at 40 to 1,chesalon 80 to 1 bulsara 80 to
> 1 solo traveller 150 to 1 top seller 80 to 1
> castle thorp 66 to 1 gold onyx 80 to 1...jackson
> is a worthy favourite but for me his biggest
> negative is his riders inexperience in what is the
> roughest race in the country run on a track where
> you are almost always on a turn ..ila bela price
> is an absolute joke and i would have thought after
> her last run she would be around 20 to 1 now...i
> cannot see beach beauty winning with 58.5......i
> am hoping that silver flyer runs a good enough
> race tomorow BUT doesnt pick up a penalty for the
> july...he has massive ability and his second to
> variety club when he had to travel down to the
> cape for the guineas shows that he is not far off
> jackson on a line through variety club...no doubt
> the gelding will help him plus he should recieve
> weight from jackson minimun 2kg.......he has won
> twice at greyville which doesnt harm his chances


Pirates,is this the poorest July (quality wise) in recent times?

i think its a rather poor field only because top 3yos like variety club gimmethegreenlight and slumdog millionaire are all missing, igugu and the apache both gone overseas plus dancewiththedevil and bravura both likely to be missing this year ...in fact im battling to pick a final field of 20...definitly lacks quality and the fact that ila bella is second favourite after getting hammered last week says it all

My opinion, firstly Silver Flyer for tomorrow, won't win because it's intended to be his prep for the July. During an interview with Delpech on Tuesday, he mentioned the horse wouldn't be ready for Saturday, however don't let me put you off punting it tomorrow. Can't see them murdering the horse for the sake of a Grade 3 race.

Getting back to Ilha Bela, watch the Woolavington race again, Marcus only used the whip in the last 60m or so, because the horse was hanging in quite badly. From the top of the straight until that point, the horse literally took off. I have mentioned previously they will employ different tactics on July day, i think she will race a lot handier. She is a small horse, however smaller horses handle tighter courses a lot better than big horses, someone mentioned Teal, prime example, fondly referred to as The Pocket Rocket because of his size. People are concerned that she needs a long straight such as Turffontein, i don't think so, she has an amazing turn of speed, and the field may be chasing her home going through the last 200m on the big day.

For what it's worth, Ilha Bela actually opened 50/1 for the July, go and check your records or ask your bookie.After the Oaks win, the bookies priced her up 10/1, the following Monday, 8/1.

Ilha Bela punters, fear not, you will be smiling at about 4.30pm on Saturday, 07th July. Your fancy is in the hands of the best trainer in South Africa, who knows what it takes to win this race.

Pirates "... Pick a final field" any Wild card chances

I respect the views of the clansmen, Bayern I am however in your court. I saw the race the same way as you did.
I am one of those that had taken the 40/1 on Ihla Bella.
I hope that she can win for us.

I am a big Marcus fan.

You guys think if Taipan wins the Derby come 24 June 2012 in style, will he get into the July??? I know it is a big ask, because it seems you can put the number on the board with Shogunnar, but if Taipan wins (merit 98) beating Shogunnar (Merit rating 105) will there be any possiblity of him being in the final field?

The Tipster's Corner Wrote:

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> You guys think if Taipan wins the Derby come 24
> June 2012 in style, will he get into the July??? I
> know it is a big ask, because it seems you can put
> the number on the board with Shogunnar, but if
> Taipan wins (merit 98) beating Shogunnar (Merit
> rating 105) will there be any possiblity of him
> being in the final field?


The problem is the final field will be declared on 21 June ,so barring a lot of scratchings and a miracle or 2,It maybe to late Im afraid!

The Tipster's Corner Wrote:

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> You guys think if Taipan wins the Derby come 24
> June 2012 in style, will he get into the July??? I
> know it is a big ask, because it seems you can put
> the number on the board with Shogunnar, but if
> Taipan wins (merit 98) beating Shogunnar (Merit
> rating 105) will there be any possiblity of him
> being in the final field?


No Bud the Final field is anounced on the 21st

Sigh :X

Just have to start nibbling on some Pomodoro - English Garden - Ihla Bella - Chesalon - Silver Flyer - Bulsara now! Can be the Quartet boxed for some. Big Race Day's one has to go with big owners/trainers......

So much for going into 1 single horse for th July, something that will never happen again!

After the final field is announced will there be reserve runners to take the place of a scratching

Just lump on to Jackson, and forget the crap

Mac Wrote:

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> Just lump on to Jackson, and forget the crap


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