Striker Strydom brilliance

kittycatoo Wrote:

> > what 2nd chance did Jeff get?:S

> He pulled Pedometer in the july, very blatant.

Are you for real??? Flash Harry is right you talk like someone that has been in the game for 10 minjutes

kittycatoo Wrote:

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> > Kittycatoo, you dont have a clue what those
> horses
> > went through. Dispicable to say the least. Just
> > ask the vets that had to try fix them. By the
> way
> > what 2nd chance did Jeff get?:S
> He pulled Pedometer in the july, very blatant.

Im personally guilty of some rubbish postings after a few sharpies,but to suggest that lloyd pulled a horse in the july has got to be the biggest crock of shit i,ve ever read on abc

@ Muhtiman - I didnt want to get involved on this one, for obvious reasons. Also, I do respect the opinions of those who think that Anton or any other jockey is better than Piere. That is life and that is what makes Racing, in the first place - OPINION!

But I think that you are out of line, making comments about Piere and his family life. Simply put, you do not have the credentials, ties, relationship nor personal contact in this regard. Your comments, then, deserve the contempt they are due, by the likes of Pirates (known Piere for some 23 years) , Oscar and many others on this forum.

Piere is an ardent student of form and when he points out that he should not win a race, it is based upon exposed form, nothing else. This is why it irritates him, to be on a false favourite. It happens all the time and is probably the best source of revenue for bookies, as the "mugs"are sucked in. Piere is simply trying to show this to punters out there, when he comments.

But, when the gates open, he puts his best efforts in, often resulting in "magic". Often, when this results in a win, against the formlines, there are those who dont grasp the bigger picture and then are upset with him for citing the form, before the race.

So, the problem starts with the bookies creating false favourites. And with those who do not study form, before adding in the Striker factor.

My advice is that we all study the form first, before we add in the Striker (or Marcus) factor....

As for Piere, we get together at my home for supper, about twice monthly, after Vaal races, as it is convenient for us. It is extremely touching to see the joy that young Oliver brings to his life and the fun he has with his little son, after a hard day in the irons.

louisg Wrote:

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> @ Muhtiman - I didnt want to get involved on this
> one, for obvious reasons. Also, I do respect the
> opinions of those who think that Anton or any
> other jockey is better than Piere. That is life
> and that is what makes Racing, in the first place
> - OPINION!
>
> But I think that you are out of line, making
> comments about Piere and his family life. Simply
> put, you do not have the credentials, ties,
> relationship nor personal contact in this regard.
> Your comments, then, deserve the contempt they are
> due, by the likes of Pirates (known Piere for some



> 23 years) , Oscar and many others on this forum.
>
> Piere is an ardent student of form and when he
> points out that he should not win a race, it is
> based upon exposed form, nothing else. This is why
> it irritates him, to be on a false favourite. It
> happens all the time and is probably the best
> source of revenue for bookies, as the "mugs"are
> sucked in. Piere is simply trying to show this to
> punters out there, when he comments.
>
> But, when the gates open, he puts his best
> efforts in, often resulting in "magic". Often,
> when this results in a win, against the formlines,
> there are those who dont grasp the bigger picture
> and then are upset with him for citing the form,
> before the race.
>
> So, the problem starts with the bookies creating
> false favourites. And with those who do not study
> form, before adding in the Striker factor.
>
> My advice is that we all study the form first,
> before we add in the Striker (or Marcus)
> factor....
>
> As for Piere, we get together at my home for
> supper, about twice monthly, after Vaal races, as
> it is convenient for us. It is extremely touching
> to see the joy that young Oliver brings to his
> life and the fun he has with his little son, after
> a hard day in the irons.

is Strydom going for the championship this year? 2012/2013 as I read in his column last Saturday ( he was writing about the jockey championship) that he hoped to be in that situation come end of the season next year.

or did I read wrong?

@ James Blonde

I think he meant if he happened to be in serious contention come crunch time, to chase actively throughout the season would put too much strain on already failing knees. To win a championship entails some hard travelling too... heard Anton lamenting on not spending time with the family much.

@kittycatto...ask the horses that had to share stables what a top trainer cyril was..when i was an assistant we took over one of his yards at the vaal a few days after he left the yard and there was still a horse left in the stable!!! we informed one of the grooms who moved the horse to their new stable and proceeded to shovel out the shit for bedding it had into a new box!

soodum Wrote:

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> > > Kittycatoo, you dont have a clue what those
> > horses
> > > went through. Dispicable to say the least.
> Just
> > > ask the vets that had to try fix them. By the
> > way
> > > what 2nd chance did Jeff get?:S
> > He pulled Pedometer in the july, very blatant.
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> Im personally guilty of some rubbish postings
> after a few sharpies,but to suggest that lloyd
> pulled a horse in the july has got to be the
> biggest crock of shit i,ve ever read on abc


lol..classic post:)-D

JustinV Wrote:

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> @kittycatto...ask the horses that had to share
> stables what a top trainer cyril was..when i was
> an assistant we took over one of his yards at the
> vaal a few days after he left the yard and there
> was still a horse left in the stable!!! we
> informed one of the grooms who moved the horse to
> their new stable and proceeded to shovel out the
> shit for bedding it had into a new box!

Was Andrew Fortune a good jockey? He did so much of shit but was given a 2nd chance. People might not like his antics but they like his riding. In the same way i still stand by saying Cyril was a great trainer. Did Cyril do this from day1, i doubt.

andrew fortunes personal life in no way affects the horse...whether he did it from day 1 is not important,the fact is he did it at all.fullstop....
he was not a great trainer...he stumped his babies to make sure they could run as 2yos and then could never train on..historic lady,roaring sands..2yos!!!
becareful when using the word great in describing someone....de kock,millard,bass,drier those are great trainers..not naidoo

Historic lady raced at 3 and 4 , won a grade1 and was very competitive. Andrew did ride intoxicated a few times and could have affected or abused horses, we will never know.

I don't condone what cyril naidoo had done towards the end of his career but he was champion trainer in Natal for a season and you dont become champion trainer by winning baby races, some of the trainers.still in the gameneed to banned from the sport for ill treating their grooms

Well said BC. I also never say that what he did in the latter part of his career was right. I liked him as a trainer and thinks he deserves another chance.