Strike Two for Tarry

It would seem that as punters we will not pick on stables that bring us the winners, yet if we find out we were bombed out of some big bet or an exotic by a big paying roughie and later find out that that bomb was found to have a positive for banned pre-race medication we hit the key boards in disgust.

Well now I have come out of my little hole to highlight one of the latest infringments from none other than the Tarry yard, they received a R80000 fine.

On Jan 29 horse Euterpe was found to have tested positive for flumethasone which is a hydrocortisone and from the glucocorticiods grouping-

Glucocorticoids include the naturally occurring compounds, cortisone and hydrocortisone. Their major effects are as follows:

1. Increase protein catabolism and gluconeogenesis.

2. Depression of lymphoid tissue, fibroblasts and eosinophils.

3. Increase the sense of well being and tolerance to pain.

4. Depress thyroid function and anterior pituitary function through reciprocal influences.

5. Influence vasoconstrictive response of the circulatory system to norepinephrine, helping to maintain blood pressure.

6. Increase renal flow.

7. Influence gastric HCl and pepsin production.

8. Reduces the secretion of mucus from respiratory and enteric mucosa.

9. Affect to some degree sodium retention and potassium excretion.

10. Stimulate erythropoiesis and myelopoiesis.

Its seems by the lack of comments J-Pegged nobody seems to think there is anything bad about what he did .

......Funny game this......fellow formites read GvZ and St Paul the riot act about similar transgressions
who the hell cares if horses are riddled with stomach ulcers and start bleeding.....some had Plenty to say about vet bills but trainers are empowering vets to do as they please and administer what ever the oke paying the bills can afford.....good luck to them they made the right investment in their education.....

SUPERSTAR Wrote:

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> Its seems by the lack of comments J-Pegged nobody
> seems to think there is anything bad about what he
> did .

What's to be said? The post above delivers the facts, horse found to have chemicals, trainer been fined, gambling egg can't be unscrambled. It's not good, but as a sport we have got a process in place for this: a system that checks for chemicals and a process of penalties thereafter. The only thing left is to wonder if it is enough. Silence does not imply anyone is happy.

I suppose people who have never had a positive will think the penalties are not enough. The other problem is that we all know the penalties for tiny unimportant stuff is the same as elephant juice, so no one really wants to comment till it's clear whether or not the gibberish techno-talk is just exaggerating the side effects of toothpaste or a proper effort to cheat.

It would be hard to convince me that Tarry doped up a filly who drifted out to 3/1 in a maiden and bet his business on it. 80K fine for the trainer and recorded and an offence, and the owner loses the stake of nearly 50K, it's hard to argue the penalty isn't severe enough.

Spot on Jack............until the NHA differentiate between "misuse"(as in timing) of medicinal treatment and truly performance enhancing dope,these notices and penalties are inappropriate as they are mostly misunderstood.

The confusion amd false perception brings the industry into disrepute.

The scrambled egg cannot be unscrambled......nice way to put it Jack..... but the techno jargon is simply not gibberish unless you are a doffie.....in our vetenary and medical practices the so called techno jargon is manditory as it appears on the package insert of both prescribed and OTC medications and it may be hard for the layman to decipher but it is there for our health professionals to understand and relay back to the doffies.....when I was young dumb and full of cum.....I would take the doctors script and diganosis as gospel.....never question why I had certain reactions to certain medication.....after all he was like god.....then when my barely legal 17 year old girlfreind started lactating after a stomach medication was presribed to her by my Quack......I had the shock of my life.....I thought that I had empregintaed the poor girl..... and that I would be marched down the isle with a shotgun to my head......the quack was a bit perplexed that she was not preggie but at no time did go back to the book he kept in is side drawer to read that this was a major side effect of the medication he had prescribed......a holistic pharmacist spotted the mistake and recommended a homeopathic remedey.....in one swoop my faith in those that went to university to read books and be tested on what they had absorbed...... vanished.....they are after all meer mortals and like many others that never hit the books are prone to make mistakes......if trainers do not question the possible side effects and the ramifications of the many medications that are used on horses in their care then they only have themselves to blame.....

muhtiman the trainers especial the new ones they find it much easier to balame for the vet. clueless

Sorry Muhti,I think you enjoy the idea of having a unique understanding and are missing an important point IMO...............we don't need for medication,no matter how simple or complicated,to be misunderstood, and regarded as dope,by the public............those that we should be marketing the positive aspects of racing to!
The NHA should be doing everything in their power to provide the positives,as in TRUST IN THE PRODUCT.
A sensible revision of the rules followed by enforcement should do it!

Rob what is so hard to grasp.....the medication that is being prescribed by vets whether it is legal or illegal for horse racing is not the point.... its the ongoing frequency of its use that is damaging horses....a vet may use this to treat a simple strain.... but the side effects mentioned could lower the immune system thus expose an animal to countless viral infections or cause a horse to start to bleed....I'm not guessing here because it states in the so called technical jargon that these are the possible side effect....

Just a question I see this thread says "Strike two", what happens on strike three?

shrek Wrote:

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> Just a question I see this thread says "Strike
> two", what happens on strike three?

Mooi loop ou boet

Reckon check out baseball rules and there's your answer......