Going on's in Flamingo Park
- Harris
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
Talking of patterns redfeather I must add that the Rugg trained Chiovanni has me *ucked. He wins his maiden like a good horse and then has two shocking runs and 3 moderate ones. Last time he was forced to race 5 wide from the start to the straight and still won by 5 lengths. I have never seen that happen in Kimberley before. He then gets an 8 point penalty and goes out and thrashes them again.
As for the Visser's the previous week they tip Dolomite and he wins under Khumalo and Castle Rock is beaten 13l. Yesterday 2kg's worse off they tip Castle Rock and he reverses the form.
My personal opinion is that Flamingo should be banished from our race calendar and Port Elizabeth should race Monday and Friday. They have the people and the horse population to make it work. Let the Flamingo trainers race in the bush in Namibia.
How can we compare the likes of Smith, Paddock, Sham and Laing (just mentioning a few) to what Kimberley has to offer.
As for the Visser's the previous week they tip Dolomite and he wins under Khumalo and Castle Rock is beaten 13l. Yesterday 2kg's worse off they tip Castle Rock and he reverses the form.
My personal opinion is that Flamingo should be banished from our race calendar and Port Elizabeth should race Monday and Friday. They have the people and the horse population to make it work. Let the Flamingo trainers race in the bush in Namibia.
How can we compare the likes of Smith, Paddock, Sham and Laing (just mentioning a few) to what Kimberley has to offer.
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- The Madji
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
johnnycomelately Wrote:
> Arme Harris
> Hy klink na iemand wat pap gemoer is:S
If you have the audacity to finish above me on Hollybucks today. . .jy gaan dieselfde wees....
> Arme Harris
> Hy klink na iemand wat pap gemoer is:S
If you have the audacity to finish above me on Hollybucks today. . .jy gaan dieselfde wees....
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- Sham Racing
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
Red Feather you shoot straight from hip,.I for one am sick of the $ullshit about us getting a R1000 fine when injections are out by a day or 2 .Then all this $hit about wrong doings and nothing gets done .It cost a living fortune to keep injections up to date especially when you own 90% of the yard as Stef and us do. You don't want to race a horse so close to an injection so then you get a fine for being out of date when others gippo passports.
When will NHA concentrate their energy on consistent rule breakers and not on easy targets?
This is not with love from Dorrie but from Mark
When will NHA concentrate their energy on consistent rule breakers and not on easy targets?
This is not with love from Dorrie but from Mark
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
Sham Racing Wrote:
> Red Feather you shoot straight from hip,.I for one
> am sick of the $ullshit about us getting a R1000
> fine when injections are out by a day or 2 .Then
> all this $hit about wrong doings and nothing gets
> done .It cost a living fortune to keep injections
> up to date especially when you own 90% of the yard
> as Stef and us do. You don't want to race a horse
> so close to an injection so then you get a fine
> for being out of date when others gippo
> passports.
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> When will NHA concentrate their energy on
> consistent rule breakers and not on easy targets?
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> This is not with love from Dorrie but from Mark
Mark my friend the NHA is not know for that, was also a victim of their vindictiveness towards the "small men"
they have not got the balls to act against the more well know rule breakers.
and when they go for you it is with guns blazing advocates et all, the current chairman of the NHA, Mr JM Witts-Hewinson (Jonathan) is part (owner) of the law company Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr Inc, which they use to prosecute persons for their transgressions, and they spare no cost to get you, ask the Goosens and Pretoruise's of this world, they have experienced it and a few others as well,
remember that I posted at one stage about a conflict of interest, but who cares
> Red Feather you shoot straight from hip,.I for one
> am sick of the $ullshit about us getting a R1000
> fine when injections are out by a day or 2 .Then
> all this $hit about wrong doings and nothing gets
> done .It cost a living fortune to keep injections
> up to date especially when you own 90% of the yard
> as Stef and us do. You don't want to race a horse
> so close to an injection so then you get a fine
> for being out of date when others gippo
> passports.
>
> When will NHA concentrate their energy on
> consistent rule breakers and not on easy targets?
>
> This is not with love from Dorrie but from Mark
Mark my friend the NHA is not know for that, was also a victim of their vindictiveness towards the "small men"
they have not got the balls to act against the more well know rule breakers.
and when they go for you it is with guns blazing advocates et all, the current chairman of the NHA, Mr JM Witts-Hewinson (Jonathan) is part (owner) of the law company Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr Inc, which they use to prosecute persons for their transgressions, and they spare no cost to get you, ask the Goosens and Pretoruise's of this world, they have experienced it and a few others as well,
remember that I posted at one stage about a conflict of interest, but who cares
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- Rockspider
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
The fact is that wit 4 enforced injections per year 2 for ahs 2 for ei we also loses min of 6 weeks work were as trainer who gyppo this works his horses i have mentioned that fact 2 the stipes on numerous occasion and then i havent even mentioned the cst fact 40 horses 4x a year at a min of 280 a shot then u can c what it cost the honest trainer makes u think doesnt it
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
Firstly, I'd just like to say that I don't agree with Harris on this occasion, though I can understand his feelings and frustrations, I have often been there myself. But, I do think Kimberley has a place and as far as punting is concerned, as I have said before, it seems so much easier and so much more consistent when you remove the horses from a certain (or more) stable(s).
And just as an aside, though it seems a little contradictory to the rest of this post, but, as I put it up yesterday lol, CR has now beaten Dolomite the last three times they have raced over yesterday's distance.
But, the main thing I would like to say is... thanks redfeather! good to hear someone stating their case with such forthrightness (tu) I have often made no secret of my feelings towards this particular stable in the daily threads. And I have to say, though I don't particularly enjoy the content as I wish it didn't exist, it is with much hope that I read redfeather's words. Assuming there is truth in what he or she says, I really hope that these practices are eradicated. For all concerned, and of course the horses, it seems, for want of a better term, a totally "unacceptable" scenario. I hope redfeather and others are able to pursue the matter until it is proven one way or the other (tu) And I hope if anyone is found to be guilty that their punishments are appropriate. I also hope that a presence is kept in the area to keep the game "clean".
And just as an aside, though it seems a little contradictory to the rest of this post, but, as I put it up yesterday lol, CR has now beaten Dolomite the last three times they have raced over yesterday's distance.
But, the main thing I would like to say is... thanks redfeather! good to hear someone stating their case with such forthrightness (tu) I have often made no secret of my feelings towards this particular stable in the daily threads. And I have to say, though I don't particularly enjoy the content as I wish it didn't exist, it is with much hope that I read redfeather's words. Assuming there is truth in what he or she says, I really hope that these practices are eradicated. For all concerned, and of course the horses, it seems, for want of a better term, a totally "unacceptable" scenario. I hope redfeather and others are able to pursue the matter until it is proven one way or the other (tu) And I hope if anyone is found to be guilty that their punishments are appropriate. I also hope that a presence is kept in the area to keep the game "clean".
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- Rockspider
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 4 days ago
Is castle rocks owner a namibian
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- johnnycomelately
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 3 days ago
The Madji Wrote:
> johnnycomelately Wrote:
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> > Arme Harris
> > Hy klink na iemand wat pap gemoer is:S
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> If you have the audacity to finish above me on
> Hollybucks today. . .jy gaan dieselfde wees....
Well I finished 2nd yesterday and am currently in 5th pos
You'll have to meet me at a wet,abandoned Kenilworth to do that:D
> johnnycomelately Wrote:
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> > Arme Harris
> > Hy klink na iemand wat pap gemoer is:S
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> If you have the audacity to finish above me on
> Hollybucks today. . .jy gaan dieselfde wees....
Well I finished 2nd yesterday and am currently in 5th pos
You'll have to meet me at a wet,abandoned Kenilworth to do that:D
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 3 days ago
hibernia Wrote:
> There is a trainer in KIMB being investigated now
> BY THE NHRA
There is more than one under their microscope at the mo'....a lot more..
> There is a trainer in KIMB being investigated now
> BY THE NHRA
There is more than one under their microscope at the mo'....a lot more..
Give everything but up!
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Re: Re: Going on's in Flamingo Park
12 years 3 days ago
Yeah James Blond, I am now going to the appeal court in Bloemfontein to win the case over the NHA and their unfair doping rules. It is costing me a fortune but they are using the money generated by OUR runners to pay for this iniquitous situation. No shareholders company would allow this to happen.
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