Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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11 years 4 months ago
mister a Wrote:
> Len just go back through the threads and you will
> pick up plenty of it,
Of what members standing up for the R/ a , you got a gripe with them for not advertising with you thats your choice to be handled by how you want to....sweeping statements that certain posts or statements are from the R/a :S .
> Len just go back through the threads and you will
> pick up plenty of it,
Of what members standing up for the R/ a , you got a gripe with them for not advertising with you thats your choice to be handled by how you want to....sweeping statements that certain posts or statements are from the R/a :S .
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Flash Harry Wrote:
> len sham larry is mr ra i never here any one else
> but hem say any thing about ra, he is all ways the
> man on tv and the races. why is these? because do
> you see the pen pusher from parliament on tv or
> the president. what is the problem
What is the point Flash we all know he is the R /A , so all that is wrong with racing is his fault ...
> len sham larry is mr ra i never here any one else
> but hem say any thing about ra, he is all ways the
> man on tv and the races. why is these? because do
> you see the pen pusher from parliament on tv or
> the president. what is the problem
What is the point Flash we all know he is the R /A , so all that is wrong with racing is his fault ...
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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mister a Wrote:
> no one blaming RA,, ABC is a chat site and racing
> people express themselves here be it owner or
> punter, not asking the RA to do anything except
> what it and the rest of the industry should be
> doing anyway,, check THEIR mission statements ,,
> all preach the good of the game but when
> incentives are started and done by outsiders i say
> the people in positions that can assits should
> assist instead of watching on the sidelines while
> others suffer while for doing good for racing,,
Len read the above
> no one blaming RA,, ABC is a chat site and racing
> people express themselves here be it owner or
> punter, not asking the RA to do anything except
> what it and the rest of the industry should be
> doing anyway,, check THEIR mission statements ,,
> all preach the good of the game but when
> incentives are started and done by outsiders i say
> the people in positions that can assits should
> assist instead of watching on the sidelines while
> others suffer while for doing good for racing,,
Len read the above
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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mister a Wrote:
> whenever something they dont like is written on
> ABC they get their friends to write for them, and
> expect action by Dave, so they want a say on ABC
> but wont support ABC,,, seems like cake and eat it
> to me,, if ABC is insignificant then why do they
> care about what is on ABC , if it is significant
> then support it and work TOGETHER for the benifit
> of RACING and the OWNERS
this was the next post by me not only refering to RA
> whenever something they dont like is written on
> ABC they get their friends to write for them, and
> expect action by Dave, so they want a say on ABC
> but wont support ABC,,, seems like cake and eat it
> to me,, if ABC is insignificant then why do they
> care about what is on ABC , if it is significant
> then support it and work TOGETHER for the benifit
> of RACING and the OWNERS
this was the next post by me not only refering to RA
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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i think larry is good for the members of ra so please do no make me look like i have the problem.
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Flash Harry Wrote:
> i think larry is good for the members of ra so
> please do no make me look like i have the problem.
So why ask me what is the problem ..:S..
> i think larry is good for the members of ra so
> please do no make me look like i have the problem.
So why ask me what is the problem ..:S..
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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Whew what a story...Louis are you moving your whole yard to KZN? I honestly see nothing wrong with that if you are bud, personally I think you will do very well there. You have fought long and hard for the Vaal I must say..hats off to you for that Louis!!
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Mister a - the truth is that you find ways to bring Form grids into as many threads as possible. You have told us all about the funding and no support from racing over and over again. In my posts I have addressed the issues at hand, without mentioning my yard....
Rob - firstly, I attended Industry Liaison Committee meets for a few years, as a Trainer Representative. I have nothing to do with betting, so please, again, get your facts straight. Also, RA held an open forum for all queries into racing, stakes etc and members as well as non members were invited to attend, the forum which was well advertised. Lo and behold a handful attended the first meet and by the next week they had all disappeared. All RA members are invited to the AGE where questions are entertained and answered. Larry has an open door policy to all Owners and he WILL give you an appointment and answer your queries. It's up to you, then.
Lastly, the open bet. And just what do you think the reason for the new decoder is.......?
Rob - firstly, I attended Industry Liaison Committee meets for a few years, as a Trainer Representative. I have nothing to do with betting, so please, again, get your facts straight. Also, RA held an open forum for all queries into racing, stakes etc and members as well as non members were invited to attend, the forum which was well advertised. Lo and behold a handful attended the first meet and by the next week they had all disappeared. All RA members are invited to the AGE where questions are entertained and answered. Larry has an open door policy to all Owners and he WILL give you an appointment and answer your queries. It's up to you, then.
Lastly, the open bet. And just what do you think the reason for the new decoder is.......?
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
11 years 4 months ago
Clever,new decoder ,phum/gc own the signal,make the bookies pay your rate or voetsek
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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Louis ,I ,and other forumites, have said it many times...............I/we would love to get my/our facts straight but you can't get straight answers from the establishment. Its all a secret!
About the open bet..................who suggested here that the operators should hold the bookmakers to ransom with Tellytrack and a fixed price tote and re-negotiate the open bet from a position of strength....................so eventually you got the idea......................Well done!
As a non-member, I missed the open forum................so what is the official answer to the tote dividend fiasco.................
Let me remind you that punters were promised bigger pools that inevitably lead to bigger dividends......makes sense,except that 5/1 shots started paying R1 a place and 5/2 shots were paying R2.50 a win on the tote.
Other than idiotic statements it has yet to be explained to the punter.The reason,if my suspicions are correct ,is they dare not tell the truth!
Also ,the tote fiasco this last Saturday,which you assure will be dealt with.................why weren't the last 10 meetings where tab-online crashed dealt with?..................talk is cheap!
(btw I am confused that there would be a member of a INDUSTRY LIASON committee that states there are areas that don't concern him ................I would have thought that you would liase on the various facets that affect the industry,and income from tote betting, I would have thought, would qualify)
About the open bet..................who suggested here that the operators should hold the bookmakers to ransom with Tellytrack and a fixed price tote and re-negotiate the open bet from a position of strength....................so eventually you got the idea......................Well done!
As a non-member, I missed the open forum................so what is the official answer to the tote dividend fiasco.................
Let me remind you that punters were promised bigger pools that inevitably lead to bigger dividends......makes sense,except that 5/1 shots started paying R1 a place and 5/2 shots were paying R2.50 a win on the tote.
Other than idiotic statements it has yet to be explained to the punter.The reason,if my suspicions are correct ,is they dare not tell the truth!
Also ,the tote fiasco this last Saturday,which you assure will be dealt with.................why weren't the last 10 meetings where tab-online crashed dealt with?..................talk is cheap!
(btw I am confused that there would be a member of a INDUSTRY LIASON committee that states there are areas that don't concern him ................I would have thought that you would liase on the various facets that affect the industry,and income from tote betting, I would have thought, would qualify)
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
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Larry is a true gentleman and a huge asset to the RA. I believe he has too much on his plate to handle by "himself", but thats the man he is. Rather than passing the buck. It does stop with him. Thank goodness !! Ditto for Graham Hawkins.
The problems stated by all are very relevant and need to be addressed and sorted. I'm sure they will be in due course.
Personal attacks however are not constructive and should be avoided. We all want to see our sport improve for the good of racing.
I for one see a huge difference in CPT racing with the RA there. Again thank goodness !!
The problems stated by all are very relevant and need to be addressed and sorted. I'm sure they will be in due course.
Personal attacks however are not constructive and should be avoided. We all want to see our sport improve for the good of racing.
I for one see a huge difference in CPT racing with the RA there. Again thank goodness !!
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Re: Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D
11 years 4 months ago
louisg you almost had me fooled so i checked
this is fact or truth as you call it, last eight threads ive responded to
Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members: mentioned Formgrids
Re: Young Jocks to follow?:never mentioned
Re: Stipes:never mentioned
Re: Calling the Handicappers or Vee or any experts?!:mentioned it in response to Fogwills "Yes mister a, I have also tried to use MR and gone back to Co-Lateral form. I am more successful using the Co-Lat form. I also tried ur FormGrids but being colour blind just got me more confused so do my Form studing manually now."
Re: The real reason the p 6 rules were changed?:never mentioned
Re: Have your say at the NRA:never mentioned
Re: MRF:never mentioned
Re: mike de kock says ....:never mentioned
that makes it mentioned in two from last eight threads that i have commented on and one of the two was to answer another member who brought it up, so what on earth are you talking about when you state:
Mister a - the truth is that you find ways to bring Form grids into as many threads as possible
this is fact or truth as you call it, last eight threads ive responded to
Re: Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members: mentioned Formgrids
Re: Young Jocks to follow?:never mentioned
Re: Stipes:never mentioned
Re: Calling the Handicappers or Vee or any experts?!:mentioned it in response to Fogwills "Yes mister a, I have also tried to use MR and gone back to Co-Lateral form. I am more successful using the Co-Lat form. I also tried ur FormGrids but being colour blind just got me more confused so do my Form studing manually now."
Re: The real reason the p 6 rules were changed?:never mentioned
Re: Have your say at the NRA:never mentioned
Re: MRF:never mentioned
Re: mike de kock says ....:never mentioned
that makes it mentioned in two from last eight threads that i have commented on and one of the two was to answer another member who brought it up, so what on earth are you talking about when you state:
Mister a - the truth is that you find ways to bring Form grids into as many threads as possible
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