Lets be NEGATIVE
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
WINNING JOCK controlled the pace of the race for himself perfectly ....
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
Can anyone tell me that if you looked past top 3 king of pain didn't have good consistent form i was so blinded by top 3 never looked
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
craig1974 Wrote:
> Can anyone tell me that if you looked past top 3
> king of pain didn't have good consistent form i
> was so blinded by top 3 never looked
Yes he was consistently get pissed on, why would we look past the top 3 or 5,horse racing is supposed to be a game of skill and we rely on form to make a go of it..
especially in Grade 1 races
> Can anyone tell me that if you looked past top 3
> king of pain didn't have good consistent form i
> was so blinded by top 3 never looked
Yes he was consistently get pissed on, why would we look past the top 3 or 5,horse racing is supposed to be a game of skill and we rely on form to make a go of it..
especially in Grade 1 races
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
he has never been far off the best of his generation and he has a trainer who knows how to train group one winners and a jockey who knows how to ride them...THERE WAS NO LUCK INVOLVED with his win good luck to his connections
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
In the queens plate he was 0.2 behind Yorker then the met was 0.5 behind capetown noir so on his best form it was a big runner anyway well done to all involved with king of pain
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
Like Anton in the 6th, he was allowed a soft lead and cantered around and sprinted for home. Hard to accelerate past a horse that has a few lengths on you and has been allowed to do that. Both took full advantage of the slow pace they themselves set. As Kevin Shea said at Scottsville the other day to the Jockeys sitting 2nd and 3rd and a few lengths off Anton, " Anton is cantering in front and for sure he is setting the pace for himself and not you!"
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
exactly craig...
but saying that IMO the also rans never gave their true runnings because they were under cooked.
So what happens next time they all meet and we have a drastically different result? i`m talking as a punter who likes to win now and then..
Great result for the connections, i`m delighted for them,but as punters should we not expect a true run race,it wisnae some daft £3k seller at Kempton, it was a grade1!!!!!!
but saying that IMO the also rans never gave their true runnings because they were under cooked.
So what happens next time they all meet and we have a drastically different result? i`m talking as a punter who likes to win now and then..
Great result for the connections, i`m delighted for them,but as punters should we not expect a true run race,it wisnae some daft £3k seller at Kempton, it was a grade1!!!!!!
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
KoP had beaten his rivals previously so it panned out again ystday
Open for debate as I may b wrong but was on course ystday n the general view was dat Yorker was gettin a prep run for the July: BB won't run in da July: CTN avoidin to carry a burden in the July n hence ran accordingly.
Debated issue Did the form horses run slightly below par because of the July weights?
Open for debate as I may b wrong but was on course ystday n the general view was dat Yorker was gettin a prep run for the July: BB won't run in da July: CTN avoidin to carry a burden in the July n hence ran accordingly.
Debated issue Did the form horses run slightly below par because of the July weights?
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
?......the way the races were run prior to King of Pain gave him a big chance running on from off them......was
Stunned at how slow they go and him resorting to front running tactics.......I only punted for places because of the jocks trend to find 2nd box......had it in my P6 but did only because horse owes me......went out 2nd leg only......the pace in most races were suspect....too much cape crawling.....:
Stunned at how slow they go and him resorting to front running tactics.......I only punted for places because of the jocks trend to find 2nd box......had it in my P6 but did only because horse owes me......went out 2nd leg only......the pace in most races were suspect....too much cape crawling.....:

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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
royal president Wrote:
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> Open for debate as I may b wrong but was on course
> ystday n the general view was dat Yorker was
> gettin a prep run for the July: BB won't run in da
> July:
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> Debated issue Did the form horses run slightly
> below par because of the July weights?
I am not in the Yorker camp,but when I saw the horse 350m out going very easy ,I thought it was going to romp away with the race.Maybe hit a "bad" patch of grass down the middle and not going through with his run? Maybe...
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> Open for debate as I may b wrong but was on course
> ystday n the general view was dat Yorker was
> gettin a prep run for the July: BB won't run in da
> July:
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> Debated issue Did the form horses run slightly
> below par because of the July weights?
I am not in the Yorker camp,but when I saw the horse 350m out going very easy ,I thought it was going to romp away with the race.Maybe hit a "bad" patch of grass down the middle and not going through with his run? Maybe...
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Re: Re: Lets be NEGATIVE
11 years 1 week ago
hibernia Wrote:
> why did King of Pain win the challenge ?
He won because 'they' finally realized that he is at best when going to the front ?
> why did King of Pain win the challenge ?
He won because 'they' finally realized that he is at best when going to the front ?
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