Proposed ban on garish red suits

louisg wrote: A few weeks ago I was severely harassed on course after Vincente won. These guys pick areas on the course where there is no Security. It was very close to a big fight. Luckily, I wasnt physically threatened.(I would have had a go and I would probably have lost the fight)
Things, in general in this Country , are declining fast everywhere and not just on Racecourses.
As for Larry, it is no secret that I am not on his Christmas card list. However, I am sure that I would have reacted in the same manner as he did, if someone poked me in the face, TWICE.
To me, holding any position in Racing does not dehumanised a person. Surely everyone has equal rights, including the right to defend oneself ?

If we look at the flipside, if Larry is punished in racing, then that could be the call to arms for all of these people who are hostile in public. They will have protection and open house on harrassing whomsoever they want, knowing that the office bearer, Trainer etc is too scared to retaliate.

Anyway, I was not there and don't know the facts. I am just voicing my opinion based on what I have read in this thread.

In the end, this appears to be a civil matter between Larry and the mystery man.

rob faux wrote: If this is true ,there is no option!
Anybody who gets into punch up on a racecourse cannot continue to hold a representative position in racing!
No provocation can justify that reaction, on course!

Magi wrote:

rob faux wrote: If this is true ,there is no option!
Anybody who gets into punch up on a racecourse cannot continue to hold a representative position in racing!
No provocation can justify that reaction, on course!

Just read this thread for the first time. Rob, methinks maybe you are a saint...."no provocation can justify that reaction....."....

In my life if you want to provoke...be prepared to be provoked..and sometimes that is a smart knuckle sandwich. You cannot condone people behaving like hooligans.

savasp wrote: I should have laid a charge on Larry as well when he phoned me and threated me to come F..k me up even that he was in TVL and me in CT. It's in his jeans his aggressiveness.

rob faux wrote:

Magi wrote:

rob faux wrote: If this is true ,there is no option!
Anybody who gets into punch up on a racecourse cannot continue to hold a representative position in racing!
No provocation can justify that reaction, on course!

Just read this thread for the first time. Rob, methinks maybe you are a saint...."no provocation can justify that reaction....."....

In my life if you want to provoke...be prepared to be provoked..and sometimes that is a smart knuckle sandwich. You cannot condone people behaving like hooligans.

There is no industry that I am aware of that would condone an employed CEO (RA) or a member of the board(NHA) to engage in a fist fight on Company premises, regardless of provocation......that is just a fact of life ...knuckle sandwiches do not tend to be an accepted management tool to the best of my knowledge,and even more so when one of the hats you are wearing is representing the regulatory body charged with upholding the integrity of the sport - I repeat......if this is true,he has left his employers with no options!
Any senior executive that throws a punch,whilst acting within the scope of his employment,is almost certain to regret it,regardless of how justified they may have felt at the time.
Larry knows that and will have regretted the whole episode within minutes of its occurrence.

(BTW i ended up in a joust twice during my career, both at industry functions-both times it was resolved outside,in private,without any publicity.....if having the good sense to handle it that way was saintly , then I am a saint )

RIVERJ wrote: Where any of the big mouths there to witness what happened .Especially the Adv and the Toyoman?