Proposed ban on garish red suits

louisg wrote: I stand by my opinion on this one - who the fuck is Larry ? He is a man. Simple.

Rob, u harp on and on and on about Larry ' s position and about people in that sort of position in Racing blah blah blah. I realise that u are not a colour holder nor Owner etc and that u could have a grudge against Larry or the Operators . However, I concede that u have a valid point in terms of a code of conduct. But, has one been signed or agreed on specifically ?
Like many others, I would not stand still and be abused or insulted. I would probably act the same as what Larry allegedly did. (We still do not have a first hand account here on this thread). I presume, based on your posts, that u would take the abuse and walk away from this incident. I definitely will not. And believe it or not, most men that I know would not.. My title or position in Racing has nothing to do with it. I have the same rights as everyone else. So do you. So does Larry.
We need the facts.

Louis ,I'm not really sure how better to explain that the whole point of my blah blah is that it is the positions and titles that cannot afford to be involved in these kind of situations, regardless of the encumbent! I have tried to explain that I have no axe to grind with Larry,as a person..................you keep bringing his name back into the forefront .........I'm starting to wonder why you keep doing that?
If this got reported overseas I doubt they would mention a name ........they would refer to the CEO and Director!
I'm only responsible for what I say ,not for what you understand!

My involvement in this thread was a very short post that merely stated that a senior representative cannot get involved in fights on the racecourse without leaving limited options for his masters.....why does that take so much explaining?

louisg for one minute put aside the fact that Larry is involved, I agree with you that the facts should be given to the racing press and various websites, why is it taking so long ???, it leads me to speculate, but what worries me is it seems some people are oking this conduct because they say any "man" would do the same, Sat at the course I had guests at my table in the Furious room, we always walk along the deck and go down to the parade ring through a manned gate, however Saturday the new guard at the gate that separates the deck and the grandstand was adamant that he would not let us back in if we went out because he was not instructed that the yellow armband was allowed through, no amount of persuasion would budge him, the conversation reached a disturbingly aggressive level, however i had to grin and bare the attitude realizing he thought he was correct, later on in the day poor old lifelong punter Abla came back up to the table looking very tired and because he looked so gaunt I asked if he was ok, he explained about the same problem at the same gate, I then went to go look for a supervisor, the supervisors also had no instruction about yellow and I had no luck there, I now had to find someone else to help me correct the situation, i spent about 15 minutes trying to convince security that they were mistaken, i was not amused and quite irritated because i knew that although i had several of the big wigs cell numbers they would not take my calls so i battled through my frustrations and eventually someone understood, Later Dave Scott invited me up to his box so i went up to the entrance and spoke to the two guards at the door who wanted to see my purple armband, I asked them to allow one guard to walk me to box 15, they flatly and rudely refused and gave me a tough time, Dave Scott purely by chance saw me at the door and produced an armband to give to me and oked the guard to allow me in, however i thanked Dave and said I would not be joining him as I was by now very upset and unsettled and although I knew the guards were only doing their duties under tough circumstances I was still aggravated, should I have hit them because I am a man?

how this is dealt with is of paramount importance to the racing industry which by the way is under huge sufferance as it is, do we protect the men involved or look after the game?

I know I will be further victimized for voicing an opinion but so be it, my good friend Gary always said "without fear of favor"

i don't like Larry BUT in this day and age i prefer people like Larry and

John Prescott because whether you like their politics or not

some things are better off dealt with there and then..





www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour...hes-a-protester.html

easy wrote: i don't like Larry BUT in this day and age i prefer people like Larry and

John Prescott because whether you like their politics or not

some things are better off dealt with there and then..

John Prescott was assaulted first and had every right to retaliate, if this is the case with Larry then he also would have the right to retaliate,

Give us the facts...... the sooner the better........show us who is at fault,,,,

by the was Joe you should know the Uk spent many years getting rid of hooliganism at their racecourses,

Brother Louis Louis Louis

You seems to have lost the plot in this argument - You are so busy defending the indefensible.

Have you ever heard the Song " Who the F..... is Alice" Well we just would like to know s - Who the F.... is Larry.

This is not an individual industry this is an industry made up of many components from all sorts , that form teams to be more competitive.

Get a sense of humour and do your homework before you Chirp, Brother Louis Loius Louis

Brother Louie" is Modern Talking's first single from their third album,

"Brother Louie" was released on 27 January 1986 - Just in case you take this as an insult . Get off your high horse and go train your horses for your owners.

Unfortunately, as with most things in racing, the side show has become more important than the actual event. There are a few things that bother me about this event. Firstly there seem to be many apologists for Larry, there is almost a "he deserved it attitude" towards the assaulted punter. Please God this incident does not reach the mainstream Social Media circus. Can you just imagine the shame horse racing and the Racing Association in particular would have to bear if it emerged that the CEO/MD of an elite almost lily white association assaulted a punter who is apparently a person of colour? We have all seen the deserved outcry around Penny Sparrow and Matt Theunissons racists remarks. What will the reaction be to an interracial assault? Why, 5 days after the assault are the RA board and the NHA silent on this incident? It is shameful. The NHA have a new CEO. He needs to be seen to be in control of the situation and not act like his predecessors who showed that they had neither integrity nor independence.

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As a CEO of a company in the public domain, there is an understanding of the type of behavior one should display. Irrespective of circumstances or being provoked, a CEO especially the one in question has to display this type of behavior publicly. Should he fail to display this type of behavior and compromises the integrity and reputation of the company he represents in public, then he is required to be dealt with accordingly. Whatever the punishment is, it should be designed towards progressive discipline and repairing the image of the company.

Over the Air wrote: Unfortunately, as with most things in racing, the side show has become more important than the actual event. There are a few things that bother me about this event. Firstly there seem to be many apologists for Larry, there is almost a "he deserved it attitude" towards the assaulted punter. Please God this incident does not reach the mainstream Social Media circus. Can you just imagine the shame horse racing and the Racing Association in particular would have to bear if it emerged that the CEO/MD of an elite almost lily white association assaulted a punter who is apparently a person of colour? We have all seen the deserved outcry around Penny Sparrow and Matt Theunissons racists remarks. What will the reaction be to an interracial assault? Why, 5 days after the assault are the RA board and the NHA silent on this incident? It is shameful. The NHA have a new CEO. He needs to be seen to be in control of the situation and not act like his predecessors who showed that they had neither integrity nor independence.

The side show was the original heading of the post by you :sick:

Len Sham wrote:

Over the Air wrote: Unfortunately, as with most things in racing, the side show has become more important than the actual event. There are a few things that bother me about this event. Firstly there seem to be many apologists for Larry, there is almost a "he deserved it attitude" towards the assaulted punter. Please God this incident does not reach the mainstream Social Media circus. Can you just imagine the shame horse racing and the Racing Association in particular would have to bear if it emerged that the CEO/MD of an elite almost lily white association assaulted a punter who is apparently a person of colour? We have all seen the deserved outcry around Penny Sparrow and Matt Theunissons racists remarks. What will the reaction be to an interracial assault? Why, 5 days after the assault are the RA board and the NHA silent on this incident? It is shameful. The NHA have a new CEO. He needs to be seen to be in control of the situation and not act like his predecessors who showed that they had neither integrity nor independence.

The side show was the original heading of the post by you :sick:

I stand by my statement :lol:

I don't know the facts of the case but it startles me that educated people on here actually think that reacting in a violent manner is fine..surely brains over brawn is always the right way to go no matter what the circumstances ..the whole way the issue has been handled is a microcosm of the entire racing industry where unfortunately the wrongdoer always seems to be heroworshipped and idolized ..the nhra is fcuking up the integrity of racing nevermind maintaining it and I await the outcome of not only this case but also the mogok master case which is on the s.post website with much anticipation ...many have a go at the way the anc run the country on here and rightfully so but the racing industry is run the same way with no respect for the law and people getting away with murder

pirates wrote: I don't know the facts of the case but it startles me that educated people on here actually think that reacting in a violent manner is fine..surely brains over brawn is always the right way to go no matter what the circumstances ..the whole way the issue has been handled is a microcosm of the entire racing industry where unfortunately the wrongdoer always seems to be heroworshipped and idolized ..the nhra is fcuking up the integrity of racing nevermind maintaining it and I await the outcome of not only this case but also the mogok master case which is on the s.post website with much anticipation ...many have a go at the way the anc run the country on here and rightfully so but the racing industry is run the same way with no respect for the law and people getting away with murder

Pirates, we can't begrudge anyone their opinions, but I could not agree with you more. I feel you are SPOT ON.