Scottsville Sunday

Muhtiman wrote:

Adams wrote: The trainer is probably the most important cog in the wheel Good trainers know their horses----Jockeys, are also very important.

Trainers Like M.de Kock, and some others defy mathematical form analysis --- but Just as you compile track profiles, you need to profile trainers.

Following jockeys or trainers though is likely a quick route to the poor house.

.....yet the biggest value..... is a fair horse from a smaller trainer with a keen but battling jock and connections that dont punt...... :dry:

Not quite following -

Isingamoya looks the right one coupled with the market support

Finally, Ive decided that my betting sources are out of form & I'm being mislead. I will put together a system which encompasses medians, benchmarks, average comparatives, WFA scales, analytical data manipulation by unscrupulous persons etc etc. Ill put this together tonight & tip all the winners starting from tomorrow.

Tony T wrote: Finally, Ive decided that my betting sources are out of form & I'm being mislead. I will put together a system which encompasses medians, benchmarks, average comparatives, WFA scales, analytical data manipulation by unscrupulous persons etc etc. Ill put this together tonight & tip all the winners starting from tomorrow.

Unless Cosmic burst wins

There is very litttle seperating Vision To Kill, isingomoya and Miss Varlicious and strategic move. That is the obvious form - Then we have those very similar profile to Fiorella in previous - and since the trainer is quite smart, they also have to be respected. Lunar Rush amd Neptune's rain are the two that we haven't seen the best of , dawn calling as well could come back --- but there are so many if's and buts here and a length or so seperating them. -- again not a gambling race.

That's what we call gambling - of course those who backed the winner would lay claim to it.

Adams wrote:

Muhtiman wrote:

Adams wrote: The trainer is probably the most important cog in the wheel Good trainers know their horses----Jockeys, are also very important.

Trainers Like M.de Kock, and some others defy mathematical form analysis --- but Just as you compile track profiles, you need to profile trainers.

Following jockeys or trainers though is likely a quick route to the poor house.

.....yet the biggest value..... is a fair horse from a smaller trainer with a keen but battling jock and connections that dont punt...... :dry:

Not quite following -

.....an example of this was a horse called Great Dictator earlier today.....

The horse to take away from that is Neptune's Rain. Cracking run on those weight terms.

Neptunes Rain I feel should have won there.Jockey let him go too late I think.

Doctor has a funny riding style or did his saddle slip

MasterOfMyFate wrote: The horse to take away from that is Neptune's Rain. Cracking run on those weight terms.

Wasn't she weighted to win this time MOMF?She was 10MR points higher than the winner but carrying 1.5kg's less.Ok she is a 3 year old compared to Lunar Rush who is 4 but taking that into account wasn't she still well weighted?

Muhtiman wrote:

Adams wrote:

Muhtiman wrote:

Adams wrote: The trainer is probably the most important cog in the wheel Good trainers know their horses----Jockeys, are also very important.

Trainers Like M.de Kock, and some others defy mathematical form analysis --- but Just as you compile track profiles, you need to profile trainers.

Following jockeys or trainers though is likely a quick route to the poor house.

.....yet the biggest value..... is a fair horse from a smaller trainer with a keen but battling jock and connections that dont punt...... :dry:

Not quite following -

.....an example of this was a horse called Great Dictator earlier today.....

Ok, I didn't look at that - but at the start of every day, I scan the indexes for trainers with one runner for the day, trainers with small strings, and jockey strikes - like N.Kotzen and Cumulus. Lucky At Last - etc. Indeed most stables will progress - some never do.