Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months agoDave Scott wrote: Horse was cleared by Vet
ADDITIONAL REPORTS
ADDENDUM: MISSISSIPPI BURNING
SATURDAY 12TH DECEMBER 2020 : RACE 2 : WSB THANKS YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT CONDITIONS PLATE (F&M) : 1500M : Ref 242
MISSISSIPPI BURNING was scratched from her race on the 12th December as she was under medication (veterinary certificate received on 11th December). A second veterinary certificate was received on the 14th December stating that this filly is now fit to race. The 8-day suspension was lifted by the NHA veterinary surgeon.
So this information was out there for all to see - imo the people that are supposedly employed to provide the 'punting public' with this type of information (on-course presenters) should firstly have been aware of this (and it does not seem that Mr Elley was aware of this, as he was very bullish on MB winning) and secondly provide the 'punting public' with all relevant information; we all make mistakes, but to me personally the 'preview show' fell far short of what is needed - especially taking into account that this was one of the premier meetings of the Cape season
Ito of the trainer (and I don't know him from Adam

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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months ago
Imo then as a trainer being "concerned" about the well being of a horse....you dont run them if not 100% sound, especially a horse as talented as MB....imo should never have run!!!
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4 years 5 months ago
Let's consider a Trainer like Joey Soma. He kept the whole world updated on jockey arrangements for his horse in the July even before the field was finalized because he knew punters would put money on whichever horse Hewitson is riding.
Furthermore, he sent out a press release to everyone well in advance of the Summer Cup, once he saw that his horse was ante post favourite for the race, letting everyone know he was a very doubtful starter. Nobody "APPROACHED" him to find this out, he just knew what any logical trainer who wanted the best for the punters, the same punters the kept him in the game, should do.
I may not have appreciated it before, but I have a newfound respect for these trainers that go out of their way to keep the punters informed, Soma, Snaith, Ziets, Bass-Robinson, to name a few.
Furthermore, he sent out a press release to everyone well in advance of the Summer Cup, once he saw that his horse was ante post favourite for the race, letting everyone know he was a very doubtful starter. Nobody "APPROACHED" him to find this out, he just knew what any logical trainer who wanted the best for the punters, the same punters the kept him in the game, should do.
I may not have appreciated it before, but I have a newfound respect for these trainers that go out of their way to keep the punters informed, Soma, Snaith, Ziets, Bass-Robinson, to name a few.
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago
social media was abuzz with jockeys defending the cape crawl that was the guineas run on the weekend , seems as that the old saying about no honour amongst ........ is not true in there profession.
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months agoThor wrote: Let's consider a Trainer like Joey Soma. He kept the whole world updated on jockey arrangements for his horse in the July even before the field was finalized because he knew punters would put money on whichever horse Hewitson is riding.
Furthermore, he sent out a press release to everyone well in advance of the Summer Cup, once he saw that his horse was ante post favourite for the race, letting everyone know he was a very doubtful starter. Nobody "APPROACHED" him to find this out, he just knew what any logical trainer who wanted the best for the punters, the same punters the kept him in the game, should do.
I may not have appreciated it before, but I have a newfound respect for these trainers that go out of their way to keep the punters informed, Soma, Snaith, Ziets, Bass-Robinson, to name a few.
Definitely we appreciate the guys who do their bit to keep punters informed, but this was not the Summer Cup. In an ideal world, as punters we would like every trainer to have a website (or Facebook page) where their comments on their runners for the day are provided; not sure that will ever happen though.
And that's my last word on the subject
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months ago
I actually feel sorry for young Marcus, he was certainly more naive than devious.
Think he was put on the spot at the last minute and wanted to be transparent.
I am sure he felt a lot worse than we did with MBs poor performance.
Would have to say I felt the Vet was more to blame, in addition our expert presenters should have made a point to obtaining the horses well being in advance, considering the background from the previous week.
Think he was put on the spot at the last minute and wanted to be transparent.
I am sure he felt a lot worse than we did with MBs poor performance.
Would have to say I felt the Vet was more to blame, in addition our expert presenters should have made a point to obtaining the horses well being in advance, considering the background from the previous week.
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months ago
Dave, with respect who trains the horse, the vet or AM?
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Re: Kenilworth, Cape Guineas, 19/12
4 years 5 months ago
Point taken Neigh and hopefully a lesson learnt.
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