Quick poll, do you believe that some South African horse races are fixed?

soodum Wrote:

---

> Just look @ the bookies parking @ greyville ,easy
> to see who got the big moola


100% correct...a very wise old racing man at the vaal once said to me..
"justin, you see those 2 bookmakers..they can live off the 500 people in the stand...but those 500 in the stand can not live off those two bookmakers" - Johan Van Eck

Tich , he did not win but the horse was scratched , he did not return with the same weight he went out with !

Go to youtube and watch the 6 part series done by Panorama entitled BENT RACING.
It is about UK racing and you be the judge as to whether that could happen here!
The concerning part is the lack of action by the BHA.

aluminium Wrote:

---

> Tich , he did not win but the horse was scratched
> , he did not return with the same weight he went
> out with !

losing your weights has happened all over the world and does not mean there was anything untoward going on...the horse was scratched so how can anyone have benefited from this

A since retired( and very well off) bookmaker once said to me that in a 14 horse field I had 1 horse on my side and he had 13. Not going to beat him very often.

Titch Wrote:

---

> aluminium Wrote:
>

---

>

---

> > Tich , he did not win but the horse was
> scratched
> > , he did not return with the same weight he
> went
> > out with !
>
> losing your weights has happened all over the
> world and does not mean there was anything
> untoward going on...the horse was scratched so how
> can anyone have benefited from this


losing bets refunded, easy peasy. they had a bet it was beaten fair and square then declared a non runner.


Read a book called "the great casino heist" its about a cheating techinque called "past posting" that in essence is what happened here, just in reverse.

Titch Wrote:

---

> aluminium Wrote:
>

---

>

---

> > Tich , he did not win but the horse was
> scratched
> > , he did not return with the same weight he
> went
> > out with !
>
> losing your weights has happened all over the
> world and does not mean there was anything
> untoward going on...the horse was scratched so how
> can anyone have benefited from this

would you rather get return on your investment or money back?

the horse lost the race but a big bet had been placed on it , horse scratched so money back

THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO WILLIE UYS AT GOSFORTH PARK , THERE WAS A RIOT AS HE WAS RIDDING A HOT POT FAVOURITE . IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY HE ALSO SPENT ALONG TIME ON THE SIDELINES BECAUSE OF NOT WEIGHING IN CORRECTLY.

rob faux Wrote:

---

> Go to youtube and watch the 6 part series done by
> Panorama entitled BENT RACING.
> It is about UK racing and you be the judge as to
> whether that could happen here!
> The concerning part is the lack of action by the
> BHA.

Jeez, that was an interesting watch. I'm sure that could happen here if it hasn't already.

benefit by getting a feww bet ie 100 000 on refunded - but think that rule changed now more severe

My opinion...
Some races are "fixed" but there are so many people "fixing" unbeknown, against each other that it actually becomes competitive (unfixed). If that makes sense:S
I think that the penalties outweigh the long-term benefits, and therefore in general most persons steer away. But someone will always try from time to time...it's called life.