pick 6 PE - Disaster
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
With Saftote a lot of these smaller midweek Mon to Fri centres see bigger pools than if they stayed solo.
Try and go back to pre P days and see what pool they attracted and why they landed in the dwang.
Might be a good exercise to have a study show how much " LOCAL " MONEY GOES INTO A POOL IF WE ARGUE ABOUT PROVINCIALISM.
Try and go back to pre P days and see what pool they attracted and why they landed in the dwang.
Might be a good exercise to have a study show how much " LOCAL " MONEY GOES INTO A POOL IF WE ARGUE ABOUT PROVINCIALISM.

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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
they just want to steal a portion of the inevitable carryover money, simple as that
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- Pirhobeta
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
hibernia Wrote:
> The p6 must rollover to the next day , what's the
> @#$%& point of creating an impossible bet if you
> create a pool one day then start afresh the next
> day
I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet...just got home and still have to do the chores....and cook....but I nearly agree with you Bob....the money must stay in the centre where it was run...PE carryover to stay in PE and not be divvied out to other meetings....MO....
> The p6 must rollover to the next day , what's the
> @#$%& point of creating an impossible bet if you
> create a pool one day then start afresh the next
> day
I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet...just got home and still have to do the chores....and cook....but I nearly agree with you Bob....the money must stay in the centre where it was run...PE carryover to stay in PE and not be divvied out to other meetings....MO....
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
Pirhobeta Wrote:
> hibernia Wrote:
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>
> > The p6 must rollover to the next day , what's
> the
> > @#$%& point of creating an impossible bet if
> you
> > create a pool one day then start afresh the
> next
> > day
>
>
> I haven't read all the posts on this thread
> yet...just got home and still have to do the
> chores....and cook....but I nearly agree with you
> Bob....the money must stay in the centre where it
> was run...PE carryover to stay in PE and not be
> divvied out to other meetings....MO....
how about all the pools rolling over to one meeting end of the month then you have Mega Pool 50bars
> hibernia Wrote:
>
>
> > The p6 must rollover to the next day , what's
> the
> > @#$%& point of creating an impossible bet if
> you
> > create a pool one day then start afresh the
> next
> > day
>
>
> I haven't read all the posts on this thread
> yet...just got home and still have to do the
> chores....and cook....but I nearly agree with you
> Bob....the money must stay in the centre where it
> was run...PE carryover to stay in PE and not be
> divvied out to other meetings....MO....
how about all the pools rolling over to one meeting end of the month then you have Mega Pool 50bars
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- mikesack
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
LOL @ kENIZA
The operators would just love to have you on board and come up with these ideas, like Vee has done to the detriment of the SMALL PUNTER.
Must admit though, a once a month rollover will create lots of INTEREST.
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The operators would just love to have you on board and come up with these ideas, like Vee has done to the detriment of the SMALL PUNTER.
Must admit though, a once a month rollover will create lots of INTEREST.

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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
shrek Wrote:
> Hibs if you play 10% of the current Pick 6 and you
> have the only ticket you would only win 10% of the
> pool if you had a full ticket on a 10c for the
> same price you would win the whole pool. It would
> only make a difference in a current carryover
> situation.
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> Titch don't understand why the Pick 6 pool would
> be smaller if everyone is playing the same amount?
> Watch out for big drops in the PE and Kimberly
> pools. If P were clever they would keep the
> carryovers at these venues to ensure interest in
> the Pick 6.
Spot on....(tu)
> Hibs if you play 10% of the current Pick 6 and you
> have the only ticket you would only win 10% of the
> pool if you had a full ticket on a 10c for the
> same price you would win the whole pool. It would
> only make a difference in a current carryover
> situation.
>
> Titch don't understand why the Pick 6 pool would
> be smaller if everyone is playing the same amount?
> Watch out for big drops in the PE and Kimberly
> pools. If P were clever they would keep the
> carryovers at these venues to ensure interest in
> the Pick 6.
Spot on....(tu)
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
fogwils Wrote:
> Morning
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> My take is that the P6 pools might decrease but
> just like the Lotto when there is a C/O more
> people will try to catch it. As someone mentioned
> the majority of Punters only have a certain amount
> of funds available so can only INVEST that amount,
> if they play it all on the P6 the other bet types
> will diminish accordingly, unless NEW PUNTERS can
> be drawn in.
>
> I will continue my stratergy, as with the Lotto,
> i.e. play small untill the Pool is BIG and then
> increase slightly.
>
> IMO the way that the C/Os are allocated will have
> a bearing on the how Punters bet. Did Gavin Venter
> not get into Sh1t for suggesting live on TT that
> C/Os should stay at the Course where they
> originated from. Vee also said on TT that the P6
> will now become the 'lotto' bet in Racing, any C/O
> in the Lotto automatically goes to the next draw,
> why not the same for the P6 at the same venue.
(tu)
> Morning
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> My take is that the P6 pools might decrease but
> just like the Lotto when there is a C/O more
> people will try to catch it. As someone mentioned
> the majority of Punters only have a certain amount
> of funds available so can only INVEST that amount,
> if they play it all on the P6 the other bet types
> will diminish accordingly, unless NEW PUNTERS can
> be drawn in.
>
> I will continue my stratergy, as with the Lotto,
> i.e. play small untill the Pool is BIG and then
> increase slightly.
>
> IMO the way that the C/Os are allocated will have
> a bearing on the how Punters bet. Did Gavin Venter
> not get into Sh1t for suggesting live on TT that
> C/Os should stay at the Course where they
> originated from. Vee also said on TT that the P6
> will now become the 'lotto' bet in Racing, any C/O
> in the Lotto automatically goes to the next draw,
> why not the same for the P6 at the same venue.
(tu)
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
My point....the coupling rule was introduced after many years...back in the Dark Ages.... because of perceived collusion within a stable (with or without the trainers knowledge)....in the Jackpot nogal....so my question is....what has changed...? The rules were drafted after years of trial and error....and now for want of a quick big buck....(which very few will attain except Vee and Co)....we are coerced into allowing unethical (IMO) practices, to be possibly performed.....:S
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
It goes without saying that if 2000 people win a pick 6 and it only pays a few rand that upward of 90% of those winnings would be reinvested with the tote but if there is only 1 or 2 winners of a huge pool then the reinvestment % would drop drastically so I don't believe that the object of the new rules is purely for the benefit of the operators but also to create a monster pool for us to chase...
Give everything but up!
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> It goes without saying that if 2000 people win a
> pick 6 and it only pays a few rand that upward of
> 90% of those winnings would be reinvested with the
> tote but if there is only 1 or 2 winners of a huge
> pool then the reinvestment % would drop
> drastically so I don't believe that the object of
> the new rules is purely for the benefit of the
> operators but also to create a monster pool for us
> to chase...
or perhaps they did not think of that?
> It goes without saying that if 2000 people win a
> pick 6 and it only pays a few rand that upward of
> 90% of those winnings would be reinvested with the
> tote but if there is only 1 or 2 winners of a huge
> pool then the reinvestment % would drop
> drastically so I don't believe that the object of
> the new rules is purely for the benefit of the
> operators but also to create a monster pool for us
> to chase...
or perhaps they did not think of that?
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- pirates
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
maybe we should take this coupling rule one step further as it was done many moons ago as im sure the old timers will remember where on the tote if an owner had more than one horse in a race those horses were coupled for a win...its a game of skill to pick 6 winners so why shd the stable coupling count...there are many bets offered such as pa pot pick 3 dbles etc so imo everyone is catered for by the tote
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Re: Re: pick 6 PE - Disaster
11 years 9 months ago
pirates the p6 is pure luck no skill required
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