Bling banned for 60 days

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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Titch

If he is guilty, what should the fine be?

The term professional before jockey indicates a certain level of responsibility....much like a doctor or lawyer, should they as professionals be done for misconduct it affects their living.

Im surprised its only 60 days.....surely if they have the evidence then life is the answer?

If there is no evidence and this suspension is based on viewing film and opinion....then the fine is too much

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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can anyone explain why he didnot plead NOT guilty?

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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Opinions that we all are entitled to.

Maybe people dont want smanga to win the championship::o

On a more serious note thats bullocks.

60 days then most of our jocks would be sidelined if the stipes watchdd some races.
Doesnt mean a horse is backed it needs better.
Every horse should be given a fair chance.

Horses dont know their prices but the owners and jockeys do.

Price should not riding style.

Hughes rides a 20/1 like a hotpot favorite.

Not defending smanga bur there are more in this boat.

I spoke to some guys on course this week from a stable and was told dont back any of their runners course they are just teaching them the course and a nice gallop would be ideal for a better price next time out.

I had jocks tell me dont back me course trainer says its not our money.

Who's fooling who.

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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easy Wrote:
> Titch
>
> If he is guilty, what should the fine be?
>
> The term professional before jockey indicates a
> certain level of responsibility....much like a
> doctor or lawyer, should they as professionals be
> done for misconduct it affects their living.
>
> Im surprised its only 60 days.....surely if they
> have the evidence then life is the answer?
>
> If there is no evidence and this suspension is
> based on viewing film and opinion....then the fine
> is too much

Im not in any way condoning giving horses "easy's' :) my argument is that the blanket approach of 1 or 2 weeks/months suspensions punishes the hard working jocks more than the others,for a jock who only rides in PE for instance a 2 week suspension would mean 2 or maybe 3 meetings lost where as a jock like S'manga or Muzi 2 weeks could mean as many as 10 meetings lost, but to stop a man from earning for 2 months imo is way over the top...if one takes his average earnings thus far this season it equates to a 400k fine :S
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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in the past the sentence was 3 months or 6 months, so basicaly he is getting off lightly. quite honestly if someone is found to be guilty of pulling up a horse then that is cheating/fraud/stealing... their job is to race to get best possible position.

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned the horse stumbling twice shortly after the start and then the jockey looking behind twice. Maybe he thought something was amiss. Imo if he had then rushed the horse up to the pack he would not have got as close as he did in the end.

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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BATMAN Wrote:
> in the past the sentence was 3 months or 6 months,
> so basicaly he is getting off lightly. quite
> honestly if someone is found to be guilty of
> pulling up a horse then that is
> cheating/fraud/stealing... their job is to race to
> get best possible position.


100% - "Strydom or Devoy" - Give them the same time off - no fines for pulling/easys - This is a business not a game- Sometimes there is more money to be made in a weak Maiden race through betting so punish harshly and quickly and it will disappear

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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Sylvester Wrote:
> in this modern era it is wrong to prevent an
> athlete or any person from earning a salary from
> there chosen sport. a better solution would be
> allow the jockey to ride but impose a fine
> relative to what they earn in the 60 period .
>
> this 60 day period or any period longer than 2
> weeks have long term damage to the jockey.
>
> stables find other riders , get comfortable with
> the new rider and when the suspended jock comes
> back to race riding he battles to find the same
> quality or quantity of rides they had before the
> suspension.
>
> they already ride with the ever present danger of
> serious injury why now punish them further.


then they are to blame for getting themselves into that position - If you are the author of your own disaster don't expect the world to stop while you sit out your time - Remember NOBODY held a gun to their heads and said become a Jockey - You choose your career and then follow the rules or move on

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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mr hawaii Wrote:
> Sylvester Wrote:
>
>
> > in this modern era it is wrong to prevent an
> > athlete or any person from earning a salary
> from
> > there chosen sport. a better solution would be
> > allow the jockey to ride but impose a fine
> > relative to what they earn in the 60 period .
> >
> > this 60 day period or any period longer than 2
> > weeks have long term damage to the jockey.
> >
> > stables find other riders , get comfortable
> with
> > the new rider and when the suspended jock comes
> > back to race riding he battles to find the same
> > quality or quantity of rides they had before
> the
> > suspension.
> >
> > they already ride with the ever present danger
> of
> > serious injury why now punish them further.
>
>
> then they are to blame for getting themselves into
> that position - If you are the author of your own
> disaster don't expect the world to stop while you
> sit out your time - Remember NOBODY held a gun to
> their heads and said become a Jockey - You choose
> your career and then follow the rules or move on

So what you're saying is that he should have ridden to impress the stipes rather than give the horse its best chance. The horse stumbled twice after the start and was then out of its ground. Slow away-rushed is fatal for any horse's chances and he was astute enough not to have done that.

This is another example of how the wrong rides are targeted. "Vigorous" appears to be everything to a stipe, even if it's a low crouched forward motion in one race and an upright rowing motion in the next. Slow away-rushed doesn't bat the eyelid of a stipe either.

Legend has it that Lester Piggot once had a maiden on a tight hold all the way to the line at Scottsville and won narrowly. The excited owners rushed up to ask his opinion afterwards. His reply, "Get rid of it."

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea of not guilty - Did you? And I see the stipes make particular reference to the final 500m and that surely has zero to to with the stumble at the start

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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Tipster Wrote:
> I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned the horse
> stumbling twice shortly after the start and then
> the jockey looking behind twice. Maybe he thought
> something was amiss. Imo if he had then rushed the
> horse up to the pack he would not have got as
> close as he did in the end.

and that in a nutshell says it all the horse is obviously well thought of and he had to be concerned that it may have gone wrong, you dont fly up late like that when you are giving a horse a bye?? i ....so many critics calling for blood that don't even bother to watch the race...
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days

11 years 6 months ago
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After Willow Magic won the trainer said very diplomatically that the jury was still out on its last ride when beaten....

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