Bling banned for 60 days
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned the horse
> > stumbling twice shortly after the start and
> then
> > the jockey looking behind twice. Maybe he
> thought
> > something was amiss. Imo if he had then rushed
> the
> > horse up to the pack he would not have got as
> > close as he did in the end.
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> and that in a nutshell says it all the horse is
> obviously well thought of and he had to be
> concerned that it may have gone wrong, you dont
> fly up late like that when you are giving a horse
> a bye?? i ....so many critics calling for blood
> that don't even bother to watch the race...
> stsp.co.za/tir/contentplayer.aspx?raceid=63
> 070&filename=http%3a%2f%2famm.stsp.co.za%2fdiactus
> %2funrestricted%2fpublished%2f206882.3gp
> Drawn 2 all blue colors
Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned the horse
> > stumbling twice shortly after the start and
> then
> > the jockey looking behind twice. Maybe he
> thought
> > something was amiss. Imo if he had then rushed
> the
> > horse up to the pack he would not have got as
> > close as he did in the end.
>
> and that in a nutshell says it all the horse is
> obviously well thought of and he had to be
> concerned that it may have gone wrong, you dont
> fly up late like that when you are giving a horse
> a bye?? i ....so many critics calling for blood
> that don't even bother to watch the race...
> stsp.co.za/tir/contentplayer.aspx?raceid=63
> 070&filename=http%3a%2f%2famm.stsp.co.za%2fdiactus
> %2funrestricted%2fpublished%2f206882.3gp
> Drawn 2 all blue colors
Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
Len Sham Wrote:
> After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> diplomatically that the jury was still out on its
> last ride when beaten....
I thought I heard that too
> After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> diplomatically that the jury was still out on its
> last ride when beaten....
I thought I heard that too
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea of
> not guilty - Did you?
Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled shortly after the start.
> Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea of
> not guilty - Did you?
Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled shortly after the start.
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> > diplomatically that the jury was still out on
> its
> > last ride when beaten....
>
>
> I thought I heard that too
That just referred to a possible error of judgement - he sent the horse for home too early, but probably had no choice because the leader was already stopping.
> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> > diplomatically that the jury was still out on
> its
> > last ride when beaten....
>
>
> I thought I heard that too
That just referred to a possible error of judgement - he sent the horse for home too early, but probably had no choice because the leader was already stopping.
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
Tipster Wrote:
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea of
> > not guilty - Did you?
>
> Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
> a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled
> shortly after the start.
again why then did he not plead "not guilty" - and where is there any reference to anything happening at the 500m mark when any jockey would have to start working on his mount?
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea of
> > not guilty - Did you?
>
> Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
> a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled
> shortly after the start.
again why then did he not plead "not guilty" - and where is there any reference to anything happening at the 500m mark when any jockey would have to start working on his mount?
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
Len Sham Wrote:
> After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> diplomatically that the jury was still out on its
> last ride when beaten....
He referred to it in the panel discussion too!
> After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> diplomatically that the jury was still out on its
> last ride when beaten....
He referred to it in the panel discussion too!
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
Because he felt that the charge was absolutely groundless?? he certainly did not plead guilty, and if anyone who backed the horse thinks that he had a prayer of beating the winner then their judgement is worse than the stipes who feel 2 months for that ride is warranted..absolute bullsh1t.. now await the swinger and exacta brigade...
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> Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
Because he felt that the charge was absolutely groundless?? he certainly did not plead guilty, and if anyone who backed the horse thinks that he had a prayer of beating the winner then their judgement is worse than the stipes who feel 2 months for that ride is warranted..absolute bullsh1t.. now await the swinger and exacta brigade...

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
have got to say its diapointing to see trainers have a go at jockeys in the public eye these days...very poor of gavin van zyl comments regarding brandon lerena...totally uncalled for and unproffesional considering he was a jockey as well not so long ago
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
> >
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> >
> > > Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea
> of
> > > not guilty - Did you?
> >
> > Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
> > a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled
> > shortly after the start.
>
>
> again why then did he not plead "not guilty" - and
> where is there any reference to anything happening
> at the 500m mark when any jockey would have to
> start working on his mount?
Not sure . I'll ask him at Greyville on Friday night.
> Tipster Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > > Tipster I did not see Mr Kumalo enter a plea
> of
> > > not guilty - Did you?
> >
> > Stipes Report: THE STARTER REPORTED:
> > a) SUPERTUBE (AUS) (S Khumalo) – stumbled
> > shortly after the start.
>
>
> again why then did he not plead "not guilty" - and
> where is there any reference to anything happening
> at the 500m mark when any jockey would have to
> start working on his mount?
Not sure . I'll ask him at Greyville on Friday night.
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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>
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> > Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
>
>
> Because he felt that the charge was absolutely
> groundless?? he certainly did not plead guilty,
> and if anyone who backed the horse thinks that he
> had a prayer of beating the winner then their
> judgement is worse than the stipes who feel 2
> months for that ride is warranted..absolute
> bullsh1t
Obviously it was not groundless and anybody knows you plead not guilty if you believe you are - You know very well Titch that the rule states you must give your horse the best possible ride in the race to achieve the best possible POSITION(that does not mean win the race) And for your info the first I saw the race was when Bob posted it as I had no Financial interest in it
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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>
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> > Then why Titch did he not plead not guilty?
>
>
> Because he felt that the charge was absolutely
> groundless?? he certainly did not plead guilty,
> and if anyone who backed the horse thinks that he
> had a prayer of beating the winner then their
> judgement is worse than the stipes who feel 2
> months for that ride is warranted..absolute
> bullsh1t
Obviously it was not groundless and anybody knows you plead not guilty if you believe you are - You know very well Titch that the rule states you must give your horse the best possible ride in the race to achieve the best possible POSITION(that does not mean win the race) And for your info the first I saw the race was when Bob posted it as I had no Financial interest in it
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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> > diplomatically that the jury was still out on
> its
> > last ride when beaten....
>
>
> I thought I heard that too
So reading between the lines when Striker gets the call for Supertube we fire.(
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> Len Sham Wrote:
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> > After Willow Magic won the trainer said very
> > diplomatically that the jury was still out on
> its
> > last ride when beaten....
>
>
> I thought I heard that too
So reading between the lines when Striker gets the call for Supertube we fire.(

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Re: Re: Bling banned for 60 days
11 years 6 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Titch that the rule states you must
> give your horse the best possible ride in the race
> to achieve the best possible POSITION(that does
> not mean win the race)
and where does the welfare of the horse fit into the priority list?? do you believe that a jock should ignore the possibility of a horse sustaining a serious injury in a race...
> Titch that the rule states you must
> give your horse the best possible ride in the race
> to achieve the best possible POSITION(that does
> not mean win the race)
and where does the welfare of the horse fit into the priority list?? do you believe that a jock should ignore the possibility of a horse sustaining a serious injury in a race...
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